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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 16:34 |
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Joined: 11/27/09 Posts: 964 Post Likes: +488 Location: Knoxville TN
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Username Protected wrote: Your insurance is also very low for a twin. If you don't mind, tell us what are your hull and liability limits are? What is your payload with full fuel? I have a PHENOMENAL insurance agent/broker who gets me amazing rates. I've referred a number of people to her and will gladly provide her contact information via PM to anyone that asks. That's why my insurance is quite reasonable. $65k hull value (which is more than I paid for it), 1MM/$100k. Useful load (1,254 lb) isn't great with all the aftermarket stuff I have (intercoolers, air conditioning, leather interior). I have 123 gallons of usable fuel.
I would love to talk to your agent.
Thanks
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 16:40 |
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Joined: 02/11/09 Posts: 1350 Post Likes: +455 Location: Tucson, AZ (57AZ)
Aircraft: 1960 Bonanza M35
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Username Protected wrote: I would love to talk to your agent. PM sent with that information.
_________________ Ken Reed 57AZ
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 16:48 |
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Joined: 01/07/08 Posts: 2824 Post Likes: +430 Location: Walnut Creek, CA (KCCR)
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Username Protected wrote: .......500-700 FPM from sea level through at least 17,500 ft. Cold and solo, 700 FPM. Hot and at gross, 500 FPM. If I could make one wish it is for a better climb rate on this airplane. .......At 9,500 ft I know I can climb about 400 FPM on one engine. These numbers don't seem to add up. 500-700 fpm on two engines and 400 fpm on one engine? Maybe your quoted two engine climb is a leisurely cruise or LOP climb?
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 16 Mar 2016, 16:52 |
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Joined: 02/11/09 Posts: 1350 Post Likes: +455 Location: Tucson, AZ (57AZ)
Aircraft: 1960 Bonanza M35
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Username Protected wrote: .......500-700 FPM from sea level through at least 17,500 ft. Cold and solo, 700 FPM. Hot and at gross, 500 FPM. If I could make one wish it is for a better climb rate on this airplane. .......At 9,500 ft I know I can climb about 400 FPM on one engine. These numbers don't seem to add up. 500-700 fpm on two engines and 400 fpm on one engine? Maybe your quoted two engine climb is a leisurely cruise or LOP climb?
These are real world numbers. I do a normal climb at 120-125 KIAS but a single engine is at blue line, 90 KIAS.
_________________ Ken Reed 57AZ
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 17 Mar 2016, 00:42 |
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Joined: 05/13/11 Posts: 127 Post Likes: +49
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Ken - I very much appreciate your thorough response, thank you. Great information on this plane. One more question - what indicated airspeed are you climbing at when doing 500-700fpm?
Graham
EDIT I literally didn't see this had gone onto page two when I asked the question, oops.
Last edited on 18 Mar 2016, 23:04, edited 1 time in total.
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 17 Mar 2016, 08:41 |
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Joined: 02/11/09 Posts: 1350 Post Likes: +455 Location: Tucson, AZ (57AZ)
Aircraft: 1960 Bonanza M35
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Username Protected wrote: Ken - I very much appreciate your thorough response, thank you. Great information on this plane. One more question - what indicated airspeed are you climbing at when doing 500-700fpm? I do a normal climb at 120-125 KIAS . . .
_________________ Ken Reed 57AZ
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 16:31 |
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Joined: 02/11/09 Posts: 1350 Post Likes: +455 Location: Tucson, AZ (57AZ)
Aircraft: 1960 Bonanza M35
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Username Protected wrote: Ken when looking for P337's there doesn't seem to be many for sale. Is it because of the limited amount available or is there somewhere else to look other than TaP or Controller? It is probably a combination of things. They only made them from 1973 to 1980 and I think only made a total of 340 pressurized models. There just aren't that many to begin with and I think once an owner has it and has it the way he wants it they just don't come up for sale. There's nothing in this price range with this performance, comfort and safety to match it.
_________________ Ken Reed 57AZ
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 20:19 |
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Joined: 10/05/09 Posts: 286 Post Likes: +130 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Username Protected wrote: Ken when looking for P337's there doesn't seem to be many for sale. Is it because of the limited amount available or is there somewhere else to look other than TaP or Controller?
Thanks try www.skymaster.comquite a few there, including some late models which had some good improvements over the older ones.
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 20 Mar 2016, 16:30 |
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Joined: 01/16/11 Posts: 1939 Post Likes: +1252 Company: Underground Airways Location: CYKF Kitchener, Ontario
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Username Protected wrote: Ken when looking for P337's there doesn't seem to be many for sale. Is it because of the limited amount available or is there somewhere else to look other than TaP or Controller?
Thanks try http://www.skymaster.comquite a few there, including some late models which had some good improvements over the older ones.
Thanks Jeff
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 20 Mar 2016, 16:46 |
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Joined: 02/09/09 Posts: 5539 Post Likes: +2494 Location: Owosso, MI (KRNP)
Aircraft: 1969 Bonanza V35A
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Username Protected wrote: 5) Can you add flint tip tanks? I see the extended tip tanks at 38gal on their website and it appears they're available for the P338H, but I don't know if all P337's are H's? if they are, do you know if they add to altitude performance? I don't know anything about the Flint tip tanks, but I remember adding helping to add the additional tanks in a 1974 T337G in the early 1990's. I believe it was done via field approval. About all I remember is removing a large skin from the top of each wing, and removing or replacing some ribs, then installing the tanks. I'm not sure, but I think we still have some of the old tanks in the hangar for it. I know the crates are there.. Jason
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 15:27 |
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Joined: 12/10/07 Posts: 30319 Post Likes: +10475 Location: Minneapolis, MN (KFCM)
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Username Protected wrote: I've been flying 22 years (although after getting my certificate in 2004 I really didn't fly much until 2002). . . I know sometimes we refer to our airplanes as "time machines" but it looks like you have found a way to actually go back in time. Nice looking plane BTW.
_________________ -lance
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 27 Mar 2016, 16:43 |
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Joined: 02/11/09 Posts: 1350 Post Likes: +455 Location: Tucson, AZ (57AZ)
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Username Protected wrote: I've been flying 22 years (although after getting my certificate in 2004 I really didn't fly much until 2002). . . I know sometimes we refer to our airplanes as "time machines" but it looks like you have found a way to actually go back in time. Nice looking plane BTW.
Thank you. Certificate in 1994, didn't really fly until 2002, though.
_________________ Ken Reed 57AZ
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 03 May 2016, 12:46 |
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Can you fit a bag of golf clubs in the baggage compartment? More than 1? Is the baggage compartment behind the rear seats? In all my searching I have never seen a picture of the baggage area on a P337.
Vince
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Post subject: Re: P337 Q&A Thread Posted: 03 May 2016, 12:59 |
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Joined: 02/11/09 Posts: 1350 Post Likes: +455 Location: Tucson, AZ (57AZ)
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Username Protected wrote: Can you fit a bag of golf clubs in the baggage compartment? More than 1? Is the baggage compartment behind the rear seats? In all my searching I have never seen a picture of the baggage area on a P337. Not being a golfer I don't know exactly how big a bag of golf clubs is but I would think a set or two would fit. The baggage area on a P337 is the area behind the second row of seats. Since there isn't a second, emergency exit (only the air stair door) the P337 cannot be certified as a six place airplane, only a five place. The area on the pilot's side behind the second row is the baggage area. The fifth seat is a small one, I insured my P337 as a four place airplane and never used the fifth seat. In that case the entire area behind the second row of seats may be used for baggage. The baggage area allows up to 365 lb. While it isn't the best photo in the world, I uploaded a picture of what the area behind the second row of seats looked like in my P337: http://www.klrdmd.com/Baggage.jpg
_________________ Ken Reed 57AZ
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