BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Feb 2016, 11:40

OK Piper, I know this is trivial, but: The M350 is a really pretty plane. But your full page ad on page 11 of this months AOPA magazine, which states "Own the only six-place, pressurized piston available" surely can't be correct. I own a 58P, how about the pressurized Cessna 210 and 337. I think these are still available. There are probably others.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Feb 2016, 11:44

Go buy a new 58P or P210 or 337 or B60 Duke, oh wait you cant. lol :duck:

I think they are implying available as being new from the factory.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Feb 2016, 13:03

It's like when Aerostar said/says the A* is the fastest piston twin ever.

Oh? Can someone say P-38 Lightning?

There's a lot of sloppy copywriting around.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Feb 2016, 16:07

That M350 is an awesome looking bird. I am aware of their alleged problems but if I had the money I would be very tempted to put one on order.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Feb 2016, 17:16

Friends shouldnt let Friends buy Pipers! :bugeye:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Feb 2016, 17:36

Username Protected wrote:

It's like when Aerostar said/says the A* is the fastest piston twin ever.

Oh? Can someone say P-38 Lightning?

There's a lot of sloppy copywriting around.

According to Wikipedia ...

The P-38L has a top speed of 414mph, but the DeHavilland Mosquito has a top speed of 415mph.

BWTHDIK!

(Wasting time sitting in a doctor's office!)

:lol:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Feb 2016, 18:54

Username Protected wrote:

It's like when Aerostar said/says the A* is the fastest piston twin ever.

Oh? Can someone say P-38 Lightning?

There's a lot of sloppy copywriting around.

According to Wikipedia ...

The P-38L has a top speed of 414mph, but the DeHavilland Mosquito has a top speed of 415mph.

BWTHDIK!

(Wasting time sitting in a doctor's office!)

:lol:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Feb 2016, 19:02

Username Protected wrote:

OK Piper, I know this is trivial, but: The M350 is a really pretty plane. But your full page ad on page 11 of this months AOPA magazine, which states "Own the only six-place, pressurized piston available" surely can't be correct. I own a 58P, how about the pressurized Cessna 210 and 337. I think these are still available. There are probably others.

I read it as implying NEW.

You really don't want them to give you 2 pages of fine print explanations like the Pharma ads do.

Advertising has one goal - to get you to inquire for more information.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Feb 2016, 19:18

Username Protected wrote:

Go buy a new 58P or P210 or 337 or B60 Duke, oh wait you cant. lol :duck:

I think they are implying available as being new from the factory.

I realize this is not important (I apologize to all for not posting in babble talk) and I am sure you are correct in your above statements, at least the part about not being able to buy the mentioned aircraft new. (The link below humorously summarizes my statement about the ad, turn on your speakers). By the way, thanks Tom for reminding me that the A* (while not the fastest piston twin) is a six person pressurized aircraft to add to the list as is the Cessna 340. They are not new either (but they are available). :cheers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLwAjOGQcHo

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Feb 2016, 19:25

Do-335. 474mph on a suck and blow arrangement.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_335

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Feb 2016, 18:29

Username Protected wrote:

OK Piper, I know this is trivial, but: The M350 is a really pretty plane. But your full page ad on page 11 of this months AOPA magazine, which states "Own the only six-place, pressurized piston available" surely can't be correct. I own a 58P, how about the pressurized Cessna 210 and 337. I think these are still available. There are probably others.

The pressurized 337s are five place airplanes, not six place.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Feb 2016, 00:11

my aerostar had seven seats so we win

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Feb 2016, 17:43

I saw an old issue of flying once that had a 58p advert that said something like "carry 6 passengers 1000 miles at 242 knots". Anyone who has ever flown a pBaron can understand the lunacy of that statement. Just bc the ad says it, doesn't mean it's true.

How many people, for example, fly their Colombia 400s at FL250 at max power? That's what you need to do to hit the speeds listed in their ads!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Feb 2016, 15:34

Username Protected wrote:

I saw an old issue of flying once that had a 58p advert that said something like "carry 6 passengers 1000 miles at 242 knots". Anyone who has ever flown a pBaron can understand the lunacy of that statement. Just bc the ad says it, doesn't mean it's true.

How many people, for example, fly their Colombia 400s at FL250 at max power? That's what you need to do to hit the speeds listed in their ads!

Very true. If you are going 1000 miles you are doing it with 2-3 people and no bags @ 205-210 knots maximum.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Feb 2016, 15:58

Username Protected wrote:

It's like when Aerostar said/says the A* is the fastest piston twin ever.

Oh? Can someone say P-38 Lightning?

There's a lot of sloppy copywriting around.

Or even the howard 500.

Piper's false advertising :)