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Post subject: Re: Citation owners and pilots  Posted: 11 Oct 2015, 09:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: Even with that a 747 or 777 will blow right past a CJ4 in cruise. In all fairness, not many airplanes will pass a 747.... In fact, in RVSM airspace, nothing will (legally).
There's a few, citationX, Gulf Stream 650, falcon 7X. Couple
More that run with it.
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Post subject: Re: Citation owners and pilots Posted: 11 Oct 2015, 10:06 |
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Username Protected wrote:
In all fairness, not many airplanes will pass a 747.... In fact, in RVSM airspace, nothing will (legally).
There's a few, citationX, Gulf Stream 650, falcon 7X. Couple More that run with it.
The key word there was "legally" in RVSM, especially with the speed limit.
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Post subject: Re: Citation owners and pilots Posted: 11 Oct 2015, 15:44 |
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Username Protected wrote: Jason,
What speed limit are you referring to...aircraft specific..? I am unaware of an RVSM limit.
Still learning though.... I guess I never cared to determine if it's a company limit, or a FAR limit, but we're limited to M0.90 with all of our fleet types. Jason
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Post subject: Re: Citation owners and pilots Posted: 11 Oct 2015, 16:40 |
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Which bizjet aircraft can cruise >M0.9 ?
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Post subject: Re: Citation owners and pilots Posted: 11 Oct 2015, 17:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: Which bizjet aircraft can cruise >M0.9 ? Citation X and X+ can.
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Post subject: Re: Citation owners and pilots Posted: 11 Oct 2015, 21:08 |
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Speed limit in RVSM never heard of that.
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Post subject: Re: Citation owners and pilots Posted: 11 Oct 2015, 22:11 |
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None are fast enough. 20 minutes out is 20 minutes out.
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Post subject: Re: Citation owners and pilots Posted: 12 Oct 2015, 08:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: None are fast enough. 20 minutes out is 20 minutes out. Ha! That's GOLD! If only I would be able to remember it....
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Post subject: Re: Citation owners and pilots Posted: 12 Oct 2015, 20:18 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mike C. - here is a Citation 550 that has everything you are looking for except the Williams engines for under $1MM Yes, the S550 has my attention, but when I look at the planes doing long legs on flightaware, they struggle to get to the mid 30s and it takes hours for them to get above 40. That really eats into range and seems pretty marginal. I'll have to decide if I want to trade off lower purchase price for wimpy engines, shorter range, and higher fuel burn. I'm also not a big fan of thrust reversers which seemingly all S550s have despite that being officially an option. An S550 with Williams is a 2400 nm plane. You could go to Hawaii with that. My feeling today is choosing between a 501SP with Williams and an S550. The 501SP will basically not go non stop to the west coast, but will get me home non stop. It is smaller, cheaper, lower cost to operate. The S550 with Williams will get me anywhere non stop and carry more people should I need it. I figure I will do about 8 west coast trips a year, so that is 16 extra fuel stops in the MU2, 8 in the 501SP Williams, maybe 4 in an S550 JT15, and none in an S550 Williams. The advantage of the 501SP is single pilot with no funny business. Mike C.
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