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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
PostPosted: 17 Mar 2017, 10:35 
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Tail wheel checkouts are about all I want to do. Maybe basic acro. I actually enjoy teaching primary, but in general I will avoid that, as like John I don't feel like I could spoon feed enough of the artificialities required today for the checkrides.

I do fault the FAA however. If there is a 50 or 75% bust rate, that is an issue with the test. The old adage that you can fail anyone on any ride is true. The fact that most busts seem to be for technical trivialities is pointless for any advance in aviation safety.

Funny, John, that you mention it, but I've been thinking about doing a PP checkrides with the local DPE just to see what they want. I will spool up some, but have no real confidence that I will pass...I'm gonna keep the results to myself though! :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
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Darn, I just couldn't leave it alone.....


I'm not sure this is just an FAA issue.

It would be interesting to compare failure rates for DPE rides with rides with rides done by actual FAA employees.



A CFI ride with the FAA costs the applicant nothing and costs the FAA guy some time out of the office.

A CFI ride with a DPE in Southern California gets the DPE $950.00, and, I can only assume, another $950.00 for each re-test.

I'm not pointing any fingers, but it isn't hard to see the financial incentive for a DPE to hold applicants to a very high standard, especially when an applicant has to go back to the same DPE for retesting.

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Jim,

Ironically, in the new Flying, Martha Lunken writes an article on this very subject.

It sounds like they have made it a parroting ritual. I mean, after all, who needs to know how to actually fly an airplane when you can explain it in great detail?

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Went flying this afternoon to verify everything was good for Saturday.

https://youtu.be/TiwescsSMkc

For viewers with a short attention span:
https://youtu.be/cDtPs0BxY94

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Darn, I just couldn't leave it alone.....


I'm not sure this is just an FAA issue.

It would be interesting to compare failure rates for DPE rides with rides with rides done by actual FAA employees.



A CFI ride with the FAA costs the applicant nothing and costs the FAA guy some time out of the office.

A CFI ride with a DPE in Southern California gets the DPE $950.00, and, I can only assume, another $950.00 for each re-test.

I'm not pointing any fingers, but it isn't hard to see the financial incentive for a DPE to hold applicants to a very high standard, especially when an applicant has to go back to the same DPE for retesting.

:scratch:


Think of it this way. Most of the DPE's out there are flying for a living. Learjet 60 captain makes $1000 a day. Why should he make less money when he has to sit there for 8 hours and listen to some student stumble though teaching a lazy 8?


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I was attempting to call attention to the incentives inherent in the current system.
IMO a good start would be that applicants who fail are referred to the next DPE on the list.
A fresh set of eyes.

As for DPEs making $1,000/Day on their regular job, maybe some do, I was told that the (local?) FAA policy is that pilots chosen to be DPEs must have regular employment other than their duties as DPEs.

But I'm not buying the theory that most DPEs are making $1000/day at their regular job, if someone could make $1,000.00 flying why would they spend a free day hanging out in a office talking with ANY kind of pilot applicant?

:scratch:

This string is supposed to be about Aerostars, the column in Flying is a good excuse for starting a new string about check rides.

Plane is ready to roll, Bob and Elsie and I are looking forward to running down to Savanah, GA for business and then popping over to Apalachicola for lunch.

Forecast is for a nice 45KT tail wind on the way back!

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We didn't get the full 45KTs of tailwind.

But it was still a nice ride back to VA from lunch with a fine bunch of BT'rs.

https://youtu.be/YlNP6ac1_VM


https://youtu.be/PR-AD5AnBVM (HD)

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Great Forrest, now I have to get a picture with my "hangar dog" and my Aerostar.... although my Aerostar isn't quite as pretty as yours!

That will make a nice picture in the home office I'm remodeling!

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Here is something awesome, new brakes, rotors and tires. Never thought that the plane stopped worth a damn. Now I know that my brakes have always been weak.


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Eric,

As much ribbing as I have given Forrest on his winglets, both of your airplanes look great! :thumbup:

Mine had the "big" brakes when I bought it. I didn't really appreciate them until I had to do an aborted takeoff on a 3,000' strip. :bugeye: Then, I really saw their value. :cheers:

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Here is something awesome, new brakes, rotors and tires. Never thought that the plane stopped worth a damn. Now I know that my brakes have always been weak.


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HELP!!
PLEASE HELP!!

I still WANT an Aerostar but my eyes are drifting toward a Meridian.

I had my first in 10 years stranding with my Columbia last week. Solenoid failed when I stopped in West Point, Miss for fuel. I had to rent a car and drive :grr: the rest of the way to Monroe, La. I was lamenting only going 135 groundspeed in a 45 knot headwind THEN I got to go 55 knots for 4.5 hours. Thankfully plane was fixed next day and return to Charlotte was uneventful.

Correlation is down time expectations :eek:
A Meridian you expect to fly from annual to annual with only occasional (once in five years) downtime. I can take it to Rock Hill ( a whole 10 minute flight) to get annual and other work.

I also will have to have a mid range loan with a Meridian vs next to nothing with a 700A
so A* wins here.

Meridian will be cheaper to operate
Aerostar will be less expensive to buy
Meridian is not as strong as my Columbia nor the A*
Aerostar is MUCH COOLER bird :rock:
How often will a properly maintained and sorted out A* have me :grr: :grr:
ARE U2A's really more desirable IF (Big IF) Diesel engines will be available WHEN??

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HELP!!
PLEASE HELP!!

I still WANT an Aerostar but my eyes are drifting toward a Meridian.

I had my first in 10 years stranding with my Columbia last week. Solenoid failed when I stopped in West Point, Miss for fuel. I had to rent a car and drive :grr: the rest of the way to Monroe, La. I was lamenting only going 135 groundspeed in a 45 knot headwind THEN I got to go 55 knots for 4.5 hours. Thankfully plane was fixed next day and return to Charlotte was uneventful.

Correlation is down time expectations :eek:
A Meridian you expect to fly from annual to annual with only occasional (once in five years) downtime. I can take it to Rock Hill ( a whole 10 minute flight) to get annual and other work.

I also will have to have a mid range loan with a Meridian vs next to nothing with a 700A
so A* wins here.

Meridian will be cheaper to operate
Aerostar will be less expensive to buy
Meridian is not as strong as my Columbia nor the A*
Aerostar is MUCH COOLER bird :rock:
How often will a properly maintained and sorted out A* have me :grr: :grr:
ARE U2A's really more desirable IF (Big IF) Diesel engines will be available WHEN??


There's simply no way ANY piston twin is going to deliver the same dispatch reliability as a modern SETP. I'm at a point of needing faster and got very close to going pressurized twin. Dispatch reliability is one of my main considerations as well and I'm finding myself heavily leaning towards Meridian as well. If your UL and range requirements match a Meridian, it's very hard to beat...

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