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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 08 Sep 2019, 16:10 |
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Joined: 02/09/09 Posts: 5551 Post Likes: +2503 Location: Owosso, MI (KRNP)
Aircraft: 1969 Bonanza V35A
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Username Protected wrote: Noticed this guy rocketing into an airport near me the other day. 323kts over the ground in the initial descent. That's hauling butt for a piston twin. Actually, its pretty common in the Aerostar... I see 300 knots across the ground all the time downwind. Here is over 300 in cruise: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CMF1DCBack in the late winter, I had 350 across the ground KGRR-KBED, and seen 378 on the descent...
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 08 Sep 2019, 19:45 |
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Joined: 11/25/16 Posts: 1819 Post Likes: +1382 Location: 2IS
Aircraft: C501
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Username Protected wrote: Actually, its pretty common in the Aerostar... I see 300 knots across the ground all the time downwind. Here is over 300 in cruise: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/CMF1DCBack in the late winter, I had 350 across the ground KGRR-KBED, and seen 378 on the descent... That's not bad for a guy with one gimpy engine.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 10 Sep 2019, 11:47 |
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Joined: 01/07/12 Posts: 664 Post Likes: +432 Location: Greater Cincinnati Area
Aircraft: Aerostar 601P
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Attachment: Record Ground Speed 4-13-18.jpg My personal best level cruise groundspeed, in a lowly 601p.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 10 Sep 2019, 16:17 |
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Joined: 11/25/16 Posts: 1819 Post Likes: +1382 Location: 2IS
Aircraft: C501
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Username Protected wrote: Attachment: Record Ground Speed 4-13-18.jpg My personal best level cruise groundspeed, in a lowly 601p. Man that's awesome. Don Smith told me many years ago he was eastbound in the jetstream one winter night and center flat wouldn't believe he was piston powered.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 12 Sep 2019, 16:30 |
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Joined: 03/14/15 Posts: 218 Post Likes: +175
Aircraft: Piper Cheyenne II
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Username Protected wrote: >hate to be going in the other direction
Unlike something burning Jet-A an aerostar going west is just fine at 1500 ft AGL to dodge the wind.... This is one of the things folks might not really understand the value of until you have to do it... I’ve gone from the east coast to the Midwest several times at 4000 ft the whole way because the flight plan times & fuel burn were better there. In my turboprop I don’t have much a choice but just eat it. Aerostar is a very versatile machine.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 12 Sep 2019, 19:41 |
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Joined: 12/30/15 Posts: 1697 Post Likes: +1712 Location: Charlotte
Aircraft: Avanti-Citabria
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Dropped off at Masters Aviation in Danbury yesterday am for annual. Departed Charlotte at 5:18 am. Watching the sun rise at FL210 and 235 KTAS.....I will never get tired or bored with these numbers I think she is 2 knots faster with new paint job. I promised more pictures Attachment: IMG_5100.jpg Attachment: IMG_5098.jpg Attachment: IMG_5102.jpg Attachment: IMG_5101.jpg
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 12 Sep 2019, 22:51 |
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Joined: 11/06/10 Posts: 11885 Post Likes: +2848 Company: Looking Location: Outside Boston, or some hotel somewhere
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So why did I sell mine? Tim
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 13 Sep 2019, 03:24 |
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Joined: 01/07/12 Posts: 664 Post Likes: +432 Location: Greater Cincinnati Area
Aircraft: Aerostar 601P
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Username Protected wrote: So why did I sell mine? Tim Because Aerostars are a PITA to find a hangar for?
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 13 Sep 2019, 10:26 |
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Joined: 11/06/10 Posts: 11885 Post Likes: +2848 Company: Looking Location: Outside Boston, or some hotel somewhere
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Username Protected wrote: So why did I sell mine? Tim Because Aerostars are a PITA to find a hangar for?
lmao, so true. But the real reason was after two years I never got used to the fuel usage combined with a mission change. I no longer need that capability.
Tim
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 15 Sep 2019, 05:57 |
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Joined: 12/18/12 Posts: 784 Post Likes: +397 Location: Europe
Aircraft: Aerostar 600A
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Username Protected wrote: lmao, so true. But the real reason was after two years I never got used to the fuel usage combined with a mission change. I no longer need that capability.
Tim I suspect you had a 600P or 700, 'cause the 600A is actually a very fuel efficient twin that can be operated on as little as 23 gals/h and still managing 190k TAS !
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 15 Sep 2019, 09:36 |
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Joined: 12/30/15 Posts: 1697 Post Likes: +1712 Location: Charlotte
Aircraft: Avanti-Citabria
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My 702 at 27” and LOP burning 24gph will fly around 170TAS at 10,000 feet and should be around 200 knots at FL200. I guess I need to prove my numbers soon but I like while flying up high and takes more fuel
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 15 Sep 2019, 14:26 |
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Joined: 03/14/15 Posts: 218 Post Likes: +175
Aircraft: Piper Cheyenne II
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Username Protected wrote: My 702 at 27” and LOP burning 24gph will fly around 170TAS at 10,000 feet and should be around 200 knots at FL200. I guess I need to prove my numbers soon but I like while flying up high and takes more fuel I never had an engine monitor (changed airplanes before I could get one installed), so my ops had extra fuel margin in them, therefore I never did LOP - but I understand that you can do that at 45% power in a 700. I used 45% power (25" / 2000 rpm) regularly ROP and got 205 ktas in the low 20's burning about 28-29 gph. 2000 rpm was ultra quiet too. You can make crazy range with that power setting and the aux tank full.
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