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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 12 Jul 2020, 19:25 |
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Joined: 06/25/20 Posts: 13 Post Likes: +15 Company: Baja Expeditions Nautilus Dive
Aircraft: S550 206L citabria
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Jonathan -
Happy to answer any questions or share my experience as a former aerostar J2BD owner... Short story is posted above in my comm's with Iain..
Mike
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 12 Jul 2020, 21:29 |
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Joined: 06/30/13 Posts: 145 Post Likes: +31 Company: Edmonds Aviation LLC Location: Searcy, AR
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Username Protected wrote: Hey guys,
I’ve got an opportunity to get into a Superstar II (J2BD engines). With all due respect, are you sure you know what you're getting into? Scroll up a bit and read Iain's post.
Yep, I do know what I’m getting into. Myself and my dad mostly have maintained this airplane for the last 20 years, so we know what to expect.
_________________ Jonathan Edmonds Edmonds Aviation LLC
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 12 Jul 2020, 22:15 |
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Joined: 02/04/10 Posts: 1520 Post Likes: +2662 Company: Northern Aviation, LLC
Aircraft: C45H, Aerostar, T28B
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Jonathan,
The answer to you question really depends on what you want to do with this airplane, especially if you already know what is involved in the care and feeding of a -J2BD powered A*. If you plan on keeping it forever so resale doesn't matter it might be a good deal; at lease as far as speed per dollar. Different story if you ever try to sell it.
As anyone who has looked at twin prices in the past decade will tell you a lot of these planes are rapidly becoming close to being free to a good home... A quick look will find a nice Duke selling for the same dollars as a tricked-out Piper Cub... Strange days indeed. So the majority of dollars spent on any twin better be looked at as a sunk cost, but especially so with a A* with 'Ho engines. A sweet -J2BD powered Star will fetch 1/2 what the same plane would bring wit U2A's, and probably sit on the market for a long time to boot.
Up here in AK I see the same thing with guys the want to know what I think of buying a "bargain" Piper Pacer, Stinson, Champ and so on. 5K for a complete airplane with a mid-time engine, what a steal!!! Not so fast; 25K for a re-cover, 10K to fix the rusty engine after it sat for years, new tires, wheels, exhaust, a few radios and so on and soon you are the proud owner of a 50-70K plane, not counting all your labor that will never sell for more than 35K, and only then if you spring for a few "Alaska" mods.
Love the plane? Go for it, just remember to look at any money you spend the same as you would a vacation to Las Vegas.
Jeff
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 13 Jul 2020, 06:59 |
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Joined: 12/30/15 Posts: 1702 Post Likes: +1727 Location: Charlotte
Aircraft: Avanti-Citabria
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Username Protected wrote: Hey guys,
I’ve got an opportunity to get into a Superstar II (J2BD engines). What would you all think a good price for it would be from a buyers perspective? Mid time engines, avionics need updated, could use a new interior eventually. It’s been sitting for awhile but engines started and ran up every month or so.
Yes, I know what I’m getting into with this airplane but I’m liking the performance numbers. The ad on BT list 20 hours since overhaul...same bird? If sitting for a while I would subtract at LEAST 60K from a regularly flown airplane. If mid time J2BD engines plus sitting for a while plus your adventuresome spirit I might Pay $100AMU's for it AFTER I made a copy of Forrest Wards new bird prebuy tips posted back on this thread in about 2017 and then flew this bird for 4-5 hours to see how many pages the squawk list becomes. Good luck I have a 602P-702P with all mods including 5.5Pressurization, GW increase, wingtips, new paint and interior, old panel, low time airframe, 1450 hrs on U2A engines. While getting recurrent training with Lester Kyle a couple months ago we flew into Jimmy Mullins airport for gas. I asked Jimmy what my bird was worth. His answer took my Aerostar smile away...for about 2 min For me...worth every penny that I have put into my Aerostar
_________________ I wanna go phastR.....and slowR
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 13 Jul 2020, 08:39 |
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Joined: 12/30/15 Posts: 1702 Post Likes: +1727 Location: Charlotte
Aircraft: Avanti-Citabria
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perspective attitude expectations If you bought a 1.6 Million dollar airplane and sold it in two years for 1.45Mil would you be upset? You shouldn't be An Aerostar that is purchased then lovingly taken care of and often flown for two years will become reliable...turbine reliable....sure
_________________ I wanna go phastR.....and slowR
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 13 Jul 2020, 13:21 |
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Joined: 11/25/16 Posts: 1822 Post Likes: +1382 Location: 2IS
Aircraft: C501
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Username Protected wrote: Yep, I do know what I’m getting into. Myself and my dad mostly have maintained this airplane for the last 20 years, so we know what to expect. Fair enough. How's it been then?
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 24 Jul 2020, 09:25 |
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Joined: 09/06/11 Posts: 791 Post Likes: +387
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Paul GLWS - your Aerostar looks well cared for and updated nicely.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 29 Jul 2020, 17:26 |
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Joined: 11/25/11 Posts: 9168 Post Likes: +17162 Location: KGNF, Grenada, MS
Aircraft: Baron, 180,195,J-3
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While getting recurrent training with Lester Kyle a couple months ago we flew into Jimmy Mullins airport for gas. I asked Jimmy what my bird was worth. His answer took my Aerostar smile away...for about 2 min[/quote] Hey Brad, if you ever need to "step up" to something more capable let me know. I'm sure your bird isn't worth much with those high time engines, but maybe I could take it off your hands for a disappointingly low sum. At least the loss would be tax deductable if you have it in a business? [/quote] That's what friends are for! Jg
_________________ Waste no time with fools. They have nothing to lose.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 05 Sep 2020, 00:58 |
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Joined: 11/25/19 Posts: 175 Post Likes: +85
Aircraft: Aerostar 601P, AS350
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 05 Sep 2020, 01:00 |
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Joined: 11/25/19 Posts: 175 Post Likes: +85
Aircraft: Aerostar 601P, AS350
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Anyone have recommendations on center console overlays?? I desperately need mine replaced.
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Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 05 Sep 2020, 12:26 |
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Joined: 01/08/17 Posts: 359 Post Likes: +257
Aircraft: Aerostars, F33A
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I would call the Flight Shop in Brigham City - I think they were making pilots and co-pilots sub-panels and pedestals.
You may just have to have those fabricated or buy used to do it on the cheap.
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