BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Feb 2020, 19:40

I have a copy of Aerostar Aircraft Ground Training written by Don Smith. Though I am not enamored with Mr. Smith or his book, it has some value to anyone moving to an Aerostar.

To try insure that the book goes to a legitimate Aerostar buyer/future owner and not a curious looker wanting a freebie, I will "sell" it for $50 and cover the shipping. The balance goes to the local No Kill Animal Rescue Shelter in your name. I'll post the name of the "buyer" and the goon squad can :bat:

if he doesn't buy an A*. Fair enough?

PM me with your name and address.

In case you are one of my friends, I'm fine and finished my book. It goes to the editor/formatter next week.

Back to my lair.

Jg

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Feb 2020, 20:14

Aerostar goon squad :coffee:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Feb 2020, 20:38

Username Protected wrote:

I have a copy of Aerostar Aircraft Ground Training written by Don Smith. Though I am not enamored with Mr. Smith or his book, it has some value to anyone moving to an Aerostar.

To try insure that the book goes to a legitimate Aerostar buyer/future owner and not a curious looker wanting a freebie, I will "sell" it for $50 and cover the shipping. The balance goes to the local No Kill Animal Rescue Shelter in your name. I'll post the name of the "buyer" and the goon squad can :bat:

if he doesn't buy an A*. Fair enough?

PM me with your name and address.

In case you are one of my friends, I'm fine and finished my book. It goes to the editor/formatter next week.

Back to my lair.

Jg

Well John, I just bought a 601P/700 so I guess I'm your man.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Feb 2020, 22:58

First time filling 5th seat in Aerostar this past weekend.
Just over 1000 pounds of pilot, passengers and bags.
About 1000 pounds of gogo juice so about 100 pounds under useful load of 2150.
190+ knots Groundspeed at 6500 to South Alabama for 100 gallons of $3.65 gas then 195+ Knots groundspeed at 4500 (smooth ride) to Baton Rouge.

FL210 on ride back home at 280-290 groundspeed. I expected to get a bit of ice per pireps and forecast but alas I missed out on using boots once again.

NOT a King Air but all passengers said more room and more comfortable than cattle class.

One more thing.....NO SQUAWKS

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Feb 2020, 23:51

Username Protected wrote:

I have a copy of Aerostar Aircraft Ground Training written by Don Smith. Though I am not enamored with Mr. Smith or his book, it has some value to anyone moving to an Aerostar.

To try insure that the book goes to a legitimate Aerostar buyer/future owner and not a curious looker wanting a freebie, I will "sell" it for $50 and cover the shipping. The balance goes to the local No Kill Animal Rescue Shelter in your name. I'll post the name of the "buyer" and the goon squad can :bat:

if he doesn't buy an A*. Fair enough?

PM me with your name and address.

In case you are one of my friends, I'm fine and finished my book. It goes to the editor/formatter next week.

Back to my lair.

Jg

Well John, I just bought a 601P/700 so I guess I'm your man.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Feb 2020, 07:25

Username Protected wrote:

First time filling 5th seat in Aerostar this past weekend.
Just over 1000 pounds of pilot, passengers and bags.
About 1000 pounds of gogo juice so about 100 pounds under useful load of 2150.
190+ knots Groundspeed at 6500 to South Alabama for 100 gallons of $3.65 gas then 195+ Knots groundspeed at 4500 (smooth ride) to Baton Rouge.

FL210 on ride back home at 280-290 groundspeed. I expected to get a bit of ice per pireps and forecast but alas I missed out on using boots once again.

NOT a King Air but all passengers said more room and more comfortable than cattle class.

One more thing.....NO SQUAWKS

Very nice.

What kind of fuel burn and TAS up at 210?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Feb 2020, 07:37

A friend owns this one. Pretty amazing machines. Just a little ski vacation with the family.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N11 ... /KASE/KAIK

Peace,
Don

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Feb 2020, 07:42

Yeah, the last week a couple of buddies have posted pics with tailwinds over 100 Kts in the mid 20's.

Wonder what the cabin altitude is when you're up at 27k or 28k in an Aerostar?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Feb 2020, 08:24

TAS averaged 230, a bit lower to start and a bit over just before descent. Burning 24.5 per side at 65% power makes one lighter each and every mile. I run TIT no higher than 1570.

5,000 foot cabin at FL210

I have 5.5 PSID
Would be 8,000 foot cabin at FL250

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Feb 2020, 08:54

Username Protected wrote:

TAS averaged 230, a bit lower to start and a bit over just before descent. Burning 24.5 per side at 65% power makes one lighter each and every mile. I run TIT no higher than 1570.

5,000 foot cabin at FL210

I have 5.5 PSID
Would be 8,000 foot cabin at FL250

49 gph? Is that a typo? If not something is terribly wrong.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Feb 2020, 09:16

Looks right to me. It's hard to keep the engines cool up there without running very rich.

Then again, you'd get similar fuel burns if you imposed a ~325 degree CHT limit. It's arbitrary and unnecessary IMO, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Feb 2020, 09:35

Username Protected wrote:

Looks right to me. It's hard to keep the engines cool up there without running very rich.

Then again, you'd get similar fuel burns if you imposed a ~325 degree CHT limit. It's arbitrary and unnecessary IMO, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Wow. That's eye-opening. It's been years since I've flown a 700hp version and it was a Super II, which is a strange bird, but I'm pretty sure we planned 44 gph in cruise.

I think I'll change my wish list to the 601P. I know we can get 210 kts on 36 gph or less if LOP. Thanks for the reply.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Feb 2020, 10:00

Again, that looks right *if* you impose a limit that's not anywhere in the POH. 1570 TIT is 80 degrees below redline, which is approved for continuous use. You'll probably get more life out of your turbos, but at a much higher cost in fuel.

Edit: I regularly run 18 per side when in tailwinds. I burned 12 per side LOP the other day when doing a short hop. These planes can fly a lot of different performance profiles.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Feb 2020, 10:41

Username Protected wrote:

Looks right to me. It's hard to keep the engines cool up there without running very rich.

Then again, you'd get similar fuel burns if you imposed a ~325 degree CHT limit. It's arbitrary and unnecessary IMO, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Wow. That's eye-opening. It's been years since I've flown a 700hp version and it was a Super II, which is a strange bird, but I'm pretty sure we planned 44 gph in cruise.

I think I'll change my wish list to the 601P. I know we can get 210 kts on 36 gph or less if LOP. Thanks for the reply.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Feb 2020, 10:59

Honestly, if the EPS diesel get certified and STC'd on to the Aerostar for a reasonable sum, it will become a killer ride. A Turbine killer, in many ways.

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