BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 09 Apr 2023, 23:39

My dad has a nice A36TN with tip tanks, have flown it about 3hrs in the last two days in some decent wind/turbulence. It’s a rock solid airplane, and flies like a Beechcraft product…. Love that airplane. But wow I have a new appreciation for my winglet/yaw damper equipped 601P, the aerostar is in a whole different class of airplane when it comes to handling turbulence.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Apr 2023, 13:57

OK, when do you P drivers ever encounter turbulence? You spend all your time cruising at the flight levels.

For those of us flying the 600 below twelve and slugging our way through the weather, they're great airplanes but they do bounce around. I try to get all the radios set up before descent for landing because in windy conditions it can be quite a ride. To the point that it can be tough with a 750 Txi to tune the radios it's bouncing so much. The downside of touchscreens.

It doesn't fishtail or yaw but it sure does have a washboard ride through wind sheer.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Apr 2023, 15:26

Go fly a bonanza in the same conditions you’ll be surprised… I was. I had a 600 before my 601P, it did a nice job too, the P is 400lbs heavier than what my 600 was (also has kfc200 with yaw dampener) and that maybe helps it a little.

When your high and pressurized you often times find mountains below you, they have a tendency to make bumps haha

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Apr 2023, 15:28

Username Protected wrote:

OK, when do you P drivers ever encounter turbulence? You spend all your time cruising at the flight levels.

For those of us flying the 600 below twelve and slugging our way through the weather, they're great airplanes but they do bounce around. I try to get all the radios set up before descent for landing because in windy conditions it can be quite a ride. To the point that it can be tough with a 750 Txi to tune the radios it's bouncing so much. The downside of touchscreens.

It doesn't fishtail or yaw but it sure does have a washboard ride through wind sheer.

Well, even the high and mighty pressurized airplanes have to land eventually :-)

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Apr 2023, 15:35

Username Protected wrote:

Also, I’m jealous that you have had so much success running lean of peak. I want to do it so bad in my 601P, but I keep getting chicken that I’ll miss a run away egt alarm or something while I’m cruising distracted. I’m sure I’ll get the compulsion to figure the LOP thing out sometime, I know my first step is I need to wire my Fuel flow into my JPI790 so I can record fuel flow with the egt and review the data log, then sort out injectors etc.

I pretty much just burn the gas and take the speed like the junkie I am.

Fast is good and I have no problem burning 16+ gph but in order to get range and reserves I often run it like the book says at best economy i.e. peak, or lean of peak. Before there was the “church of lean of peak” there was still a flight manual and it seems to work well for me.

I have an Aux tank now so might be able to go fast and far.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Apr 2023, 08:10

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Apr 2023, 11:59

I need to figure out how to add that song in to my next YouTube video ha!

Think I’m gonna do a LOP vs Peak TIT video on my way to SW Kansas tonight.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Apr 2023, 12:35

Username Protected wrote:

I need to figure out how to add that song in to my next YouTube video ha!

Think I’m gonna do a LOP vs Peak TIT video on my way to SW Kansas tonight.

At 2200/24” it seems real hard to get a TIT that exceeds 1600. Not that I believe the analog gauges 100% but it all seems to line up. I don’t have the big turbos so not running more than 65%.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Apr 2023, 19:21

Username Protected wrote:

I have an Aux tank now so might be able to go fast and far.

Personally, I wouldn't own a P model without the axu tank. It makes it an extremely capable airplane. Trick the airplane with a little extra fuel and you can go a long ways with full fuel.

My longest was a 900 mile trip from Lakeland, FL (KLAL) to Owosso, Mi (KRNP), 905 NM non-stop with a 50 knot headwind for the first half. Block time was 4:30... I departed with 230 gallons FOB...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Apr 2023, 19:22

Username Protected wrote:

I have an Aux tank now so might be able to go fast and far.

Personally, I wouldn't own a P model without the axu tank. It makes it an extremely capable airplane. Trick the airplane with a little extra fuel and you can go a long ways with full fuel.

My longest was a 900 mile trip from Lakeland, FL (KLAL) to Owosso, Mi (KRNP), 905 NM non-stop with a 50 knot headwind for the first half. Block time was 4:30... I departed with 230 gallons FOB...