19 Apr 2024, 15:06 [ UTC - 5; DST ]
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 15:02 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 10/15/17 Posts: 726 Post Likes: +448 Location: DFW
Aircraft: F35
|
|
Username Protected wrote: 369kts in level flight, 420kts in the descent.
Winter winds of course, but awfully impressive for a piston pounder. Wow that's impressive!
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 15:12 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 11/25/19 Posts: 175 Post Likes: +85
Aircraft: Aerostar 601P, AS350
|
|
Lots of 700s for sale lately!! More than I’ve ever seen, looks like a few are nicely equipped too!
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 17:38 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 10/18/11 Posts: 1031 Post Likes: +587
Aircraft: Seabee Aerostar 700
|
|
Warning If you are interested in an Aerostar. do not go and fly one, it is so much fun to fly and is a BMW of the sky. you will want to buy one.
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 17:38 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 10/18/11 Posts: 1031 Post Likes: +587
Aircraft: Seabee Aerostar 700
|
|
Warning If you are interested in an Aerostar. do not go and fly one, it is so much fun to fly and is a BMW of the sky. you will want to buy one.
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 08 Feb 2022, 22:49 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 01/06/08 Posts: 4697 Post Likes: +2703
Aircraft: B55 P2
|
|
With the amount I've spent to maintain my BMW, that is NOT a positive advert Aerostars do look great but both my local runway and my wallet are too small to operate one. Username Protected wrote: Warning If you are interested in an Aerostar. do not go and fly one, it is so much fun to fly and is a BMW of the sky. you will want to buy one.
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 09 Feb 2022, 12:39 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 10/18/11 Posts: 1031 Post Likes: +587
Aircraft: Seabee Aerostar 700
|
|
we must remember that all the aircraft in this category, pressurized piston twin with de ice etc would cost if built in some volume of 50 to 100 per year would cost 1.5 to 2.5 million and so the maintenance costs etc are proportional.
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 13 Feb 2022, 20:50 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 01/23/18 Posts: 627 Post Likes: +905
Aircraft: Aerostar
|
|
KJGG Williamsburg VA
Please login or Register for a free account via the link in the red bar above to download files.
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 13 Feb 2022, 22:49 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 01/06/08 Posts: 4697 Post Likes: +2703
Aircraft: B55 P2
|
|
2440' (KPAO). Just not sane in an Aerostar. Is at my personal risk /skill limit in the B55. Also my budget is creaking under the cost of flying a b55. Aerostar is a great plane, but just doesn't make sense for me. If it did, Then I'd be thinking about a MU2, which wouldn't make sense. Username Protected wrote: [quote="Aerostars do look great but both my local runway and my wallet are too small to operate one./quote]
OK. Josef - how long is your local runway?[/quote]
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 14 Feb 2022, 01:37 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 01/23/18 Posts: 627 Post Likes: +905
Aircraft: Aerostar
|
|
Josef,
You are making the right decision to stay with your Baron.
2,400’ is pretty short for an Aerostar, and if your budget is tight, the costs involved with getting a new (to you) Aerostar up to speed is likely to take the fun out of airplane ownership.
My plane’s previous owner hangered it at San Rafael (2,700’) and a big reason he was selling was his concern about the possibility of losing an engine while taking off with his wife and new baby on that short runway.
Forrest
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 14 Feb 2022, 10:37 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: 11/06/10 Posts: 11898 Post Likes: +2854 Company: Looking Location: Outside Boston, or some hotel somewhere
Aircraft: None
|
|
Josef,
It has been almost a decade since I sold my Aerostar. However, a mechanic I had, had previously flown charters out of S37 (Smoketown Airport PA) which is ~2.7K feet; which has/had no displaced threshold and had trees very close to the runway. I flew in/out of a 3K runway with tress to the fence line on a fairly regular basis.
As pilots we often I feel get a little lazy and do not correctly break down the actual distances. I know I am still guilty of this, and often include in the pavement distance the performance charts for landing/take off over a 50ft obstacle. If you cross the threshold at 50ft, you touch down 1,000 ft down the runway, if instead you are touching down at the threshold of the runway, you have a lot of pavement in front of you. Therefore, pull the actual POH and check the actual performance numbers.
Further, looking at KPAO airport; you actually have a displaced threshold which gives you additional emergency distance.
So in short, if you are comfortable in the Baron at 2400ft, you likely would be comfortable in the Aerostar. You would need to pull the manuals of both and compare side by side. However, I think you will be surprised by the result.
After you compare manuals, the largest consideration I believe the cost to "shake" out a new plane to you. There is always a cost here, and it seems to be growing every year.
Good luck,
Tim
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: Aerostars Posted: 14 Feb 2022, 11:11 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: 12/17/13 Posts: 6357 Post Likes: +5540 Location: Hollywood, Los Angeles, CA
Aircraft: Turbo Commander 680V
|
|
Don Smith, the old Aerostar guru, used to fly into a 1900ft field regularly, as I recall. That would scare the living daylights out of me.
Been thinking a lot about my old Aerostar recently - miss that bird. They really are special little airplanes. That feeling of getting dumped by ATC high, cancelling and just pushing the yoke over, like a fighter jet, join the downwind at 200kts IAS and in a 60 degree bank is just so exhilarating. No other aircraft feels so solidly built and firm. That sense of total control.
_________________ Problem is the intelligent people are full of doubt, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.
|
|
Top |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
Terms of Service | Forum FAQ | Contact Us
BeechTalk, LLC is the quintessential Beechcraft Owners & Pilots Group providing a
forum for the discussion of technical, practical, and entertaining issues relating to all Beech aircraft. These include
the Bonanza (both V-tail and straight-tail models), Baron, Debonair, Duke, Twin Bonanza, King Air, Sierra, Skipper, Sport, Sundowner,
Musketeer, Travel Air, Starship, Queen Air, BeechJet, and Premier lines of airplanes, turboprops, and turbojets.
BeechTalk, LLC is not affiliated or endorsed by the Beechcraft Corporation, its subsidiaries, or affiliates.
Beechcraft™, King Air™, and Travel Air™ are the registered trademarks of the Beechcraft Corporation.
Copyright© BeechTalk, LLC 2007-2024
|
|
|
|