BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 15 Sep 2019, 15:40

Ugh. This thread is going to cost me money. :rofl:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 16 Sep 2019, 06:25

Fuel flow is not the only additional cost factor when comparing P vs. NA models. All you have to do is pull the covers off of a P model and an NA model and look under the hood. I assure you, it will be an eye opener. Those puppies (turbo’s) don’t spin for free. Along with pressurization comes air conditioning etc. It gets complicated real quick. Going fast, faster is not cheap and it is definitely not free.

All of that being said, you cannot beat Aerostar Corporation’s support for all of the Aerostar models. Whether it be airframe or power plant related you can get parts within days if in stock. If not stock, it’s usually not much more than a couple of weeks unless it’s really an odd request. The good thing is, an odd request can and will be fulfilled. You can’t say that about many others.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Sep 2019, 18:05

Username Protected wrote:

Fuel flow is not the only additional cost factor when comparing P vs. NA models. All you have to do is pull the covers off of a P model and an NA model and look under the hood. I assure you, it will be an eye opener. Those puppies (turbo’s) don’t spin for free. Along with pressurization comes air conditioning etc. It gets complicated real quick. Going fast, faster is not cheap and it is definitely not free.

Says the guy who spent a weeeee bit making his 600 better than new

:peace:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Sep 2019, 19:46

Seem like awesome rides. Even the 600NA seems likely to book 15kts over a comparable Baron or 310.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Sep 2019, 21:04

Username Protected wrote:

Fuel flow is not the only additional cost factor when comparing P vs. NA models. All you have to do is pull the covers off of a P model and an NA model and look under the hood. I assure you, it will be an eye opener. Those puppies (turbo’s) don’t spin for free. Along with pressurization comes air conditioning etc. It gets complicated real quick. Going fast, faster is not cheap and it is definitely not free.

Says the guy who spent a weeeee bit making his 600 better than new

:peace:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Sep 2019, 04:44

Username Protected wrote:

Seem like awesome rides. Even the 600NA seems likely to book 15kts over a comparable Baron or 310.

Confirmed.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Sep 2019, 15:28

Good luck finding a 600 on the market that doesn’t have many thousands of hours in service as a freight hauler.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Sep 2019, 22:03

Username Protected wrote:

Dropped off at Masters Aviation in Danbury yesterday am for annual. Departed Charlotte at 5:18 am. Watching the sun rise at FL210 and 235 KTAS.....I will never get tired or bored with these numbers

I think she is 2 knots faster with new paint job.

I promised more pictures

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That's seriously awesome paint and interior.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Sep 2019, 22:25

Username Protected wrote:

Great points, Jim - just don't look at the fuel flows on takeoff.

Can you do 210-220 kts at 16 gal per side?

Bob

Answer is in the last sentence of his post. 210 kts @ 28gph total.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Sep 2019, 16:29

Username Protected wrote:

BTW, I agree with JGG on the round dials. I find that when i shoot the approach in my Baron, Iwatch the "old" airspeed much more than the Aspen. Same with altimeter. Maybe just been doing that way for 40 years...but I think that the "instant feedback" is better with round dials.

Put 'em back, Johnny.

stan

I tend to agree. Simplicity and immediate ease of reference---for me--favors the tried and true.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Oct 2019, 01:19

Username Protected wrote:

BTW, I agree with JGG on the round dials. I find that when i shoot the approach in my Baron, Iwatch the "old" airspeed much more than the Aspen. Same with altimeter. Maybe just been doing that way for 40 years...but I think that the "instant feedback" is better with round dials.

Put 'em back, Johnny.

stan

I tend to agree. Simplicity and immediate ease of reference---for me--favors the tried and true.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 01 Oct 2019, 01:26

Username Protected wrote:

Good luck finding a 600 on the market that doesn’t have many thousands of hours in service as a freight hauler.

That, and the guys from New Brunswick are gobbling them all up for their bird dogging operations. They were on their way to pick up their seventh 600 after the Aerostar Owners Association convention in SLC a week ago. :rock:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Oct 2019, 19:19

Her first flight in years. Only put about 400 hours of labor into it so far. Still lots more to go, but it was a great start. It’s nice knowing everything was done, and done correctly.

Btw PGD self serve fuel is wonderful. Never ran into a place like this. Hose was long enough to make it to the far wing of the Aerostar while parking near the centerline.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 03 Oct 2019, 19:26

Nice John...I'm officially jealous.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Oct 2019, 04:57

Username Protected wrote:

Fuel flow is not the only additional cost factor when comparing P vs. NA models. All you have to do is pull the covers off of a P model and an NA model and look under the hood. I assure you, it will be an eye opener. Those puppies (turbo’s) don’t spin for free. Along with pressurization comes air conditioning etc. It gets complicated real quick. Going fast, faster is not cheap and it is definitely not free.

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