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Post subject: Re: Anyone ever own an ercoupe? Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 22:02 |
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Flying an Ercoupe to the Bahamas is the very, very, very last thing on my to-do list Robert
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Post subject: Re: Anyone ever own an ercoupe? Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 22:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: Flying an Ercoupe to the Bahamas is the very, very, very last thing on my to-do list Robert A little safer but a whole lot slower- I think this Ercoupe to the Bahamas would be the very, very, very last thing on your to-do list 
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Post subject: Re: Anyone ever own an ercoupe? Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 22:30 |
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Username Protected wrote: Flying an Ercoupe to the Bahamas is the very, very, very last thing on my to-do list Robert It would be kind of cool to fly over the ocean with the window down.
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Post subject: Re: Anyone ever own an ercoupe? Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 22:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: An IA friend of mine made a tail dragger out of one many years ago. I think he still has it around somewhere. I never did fly it, couldn't fit in the dang thing best I remember. Also of note, no rudder pedals I think the ailerons were tied to the rudder or something. Wow……that would be something. Seems like it would be borderline impossible without rudder pedals. Please try to get some more information on this airplane and report back. I quick check with "the google" shows a couple of taildraggers and possibly a retractable prototype version that was never certified. Who knew? Robert
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Post subject: Re: Anyone ever own an ercoupe? Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 22:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: An IA friend of mine made a tail dragger out of one many years ago. I think he still has it around somewhere. I never did fly it, couldn't fit in the dang thing best I remember. Also of note, no rudder pedals I think the ailerons were tied to the rudder or something. A tail dragger with no rudder pedals? That ought to be a rodeo.
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Post subject: Re: Anyone ever own an ercoupe? Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 22:40 |
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You can slip an Ercoupe without rudder pedals [youtube]http://youtu.be/8INaLE7yQ2s[/youtube] (long video, slip at the beginning)
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Post subject: Re: Anyone ever own an ercoupe? Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 22:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: Seems like it would be borderline impossible without rudder pedals. Please try to get some more information on this airplane and report back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERCO_Ercoupe Lacking rudder pedals, the Ercoupe was flown using only the control wheel. A two-control system linked the rudder and aileron systems, which controlled yaw and roll, with the steerable nosewheel. The control wheel controlled the pitch and the steering of the aircraft, both on the ground and in the air, simplifying control and coordinated turning and eliminating the need for rudder pedals. A completely new category of pilot's license was created by the CAA for Ercoupe pilots who had never used a rudder pedal.There is a kit to add rudder pedals to have direct control over the rudders: http://www.univair.com/ercoupe/parts/sk ... der-pedal/Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Anyone ever own an ercoupe? Posted: 03 Aug 2015, 23:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: Seems like it would be borderline impossible without rudder pedals. Please try to get some more information on this airplane and report back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERCO_Ercoupe Lacking rudder pedals, the Ercoupe was flown using only the control wheel. A two-control system linked the rudder and aileron systems, which controlled yaw and roll, with the steerable nosewheel. The control wheel controlled the pitch and the steering of the aircraft, both on the ground and in the air, simplifying control and coordinated turning and eliminating the need for rudder pedals. A completely new category of pilot's license was created by the CAA for Ercoupe pilots who had never used a rudder pedal.There is a kit to add rudder pedals to have direct control over the rudders: http://www.univair.com/ercoupe/parts/sk ... der-pedal/Mike C.
Yep…..I've flown an Ercoupe without pedals. I was referring to the taildragger coupe without pedals referenced in the thread. Flying a taildragger with your feet flat on the floor seems like it would be a neat trick………………once
Actually I think there is probably enough adverse yaw in the 120 to take off without using the pedals but I haven't tried it. Probably ought to try that on a wide runway.
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Post subject: Re: Anyone ever own an ercoupe? Posted: 04 Aug 2015, 09:13 |
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Owned? No. Flown? Yes; ~10 hours, ~40 years ago. It is a nice VFR flivver. An Ercoupe on floats? Um, no. Thank you. The rudder pedal-less ones are an acquired taste. Narrow cabin. I remember legroom being cramped; not Luscombe 8A cramped, but not exactly comfortable for someone with a 35" inseam. There is a STC for a sliding canopy. I am NOT keen about the (fuel) header tank mounted on the firewall. A nearby airport has an Ercoupe fly-in every year. The 4-place, retractable Ercoupe prototype/project is on the field. The factory never finished it. The current owner is working to complete the project. A tailwheel Ercoue? Cool! Two Ercoupes were bolted together and flew as an airshow act: http://www.proairshow.com/Thrasher%20Br ... ge%203.htm
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Post subject: Re: Anyone ever own an ercoupe? Posted: 04 Aug 2015, 11:04 |
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I owned one for five years. It was a 415 C/D, no rudder pedals, and the 85 HP Continental up front. It made a nice, very cheap 2-place weekend tourer(so long as you and your SO can pack into one softsided bag). A 'Coupe always brings a smile wherever it lands. Take off, climb and cruise speeds were all very close to one another, though. With two on board it was something like 80, 80 and 95 miles per hour, burning anout 3.5 per. There are some fine points to what to look for, and some center section corrosion concerns. But it is a very easy to fly, easy to maintain airplane with a lot of parts support. Crosswind technique takes some careful retraining. If I were on the hunt I would be looking for a 100HP conversion, no rudder pedals, modern brakes, original panel, nice P&I and the bare minimum of avionics ( radio, tx, audio panel and docked GPS). Cruise open cockpit with your elbow on the sill, and make turns by sticking your hand out. What's not to like? Robin
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