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 Post subject: 850 hp Evolution
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I just saw this plane in my APs shop. That is a 850 HP PT 6 with a composite prop hung on this bad boy. Pressurized little speed demon.


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I can imagine a go around.... Full power.... You may run out of rudder pretty fast...
That is a lot of power.
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That's way cool!

And now you can get an Evolution with a BRS chute!!!!

http://www.flyingmag.com/aircraft/turboprops/lancairs-evolution-gets-brs-parachute

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I can imagine a go around.... Full power.... You may run out of rudder pretty fast...
That is a lot of power.
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Ahhh.... that's it... Too much power - Is that really a problem???? :duck:

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I love the Evolution. It's airline killer. It's all you really need.


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Probably and awesome machine... as far as too much power, you could easily say the same thing about the P-51, right? ;)

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you could easily say the same thing about the P-51, right? ;)


No - an airframe designed for X hp will have control surfaces appropriate to the engine. It's quite possible to make a plane uncontrollable with power the rudder can't handle.


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I can imagine a go around.... Full power.... You may run out of rudder pretty fast...
That is a lot of power.
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You don't need to go full power if that truly is even an issue.


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Of similar note is the TBM 850, which on takeoff is "just" a TBM 700 - when takeoff flaps are raised, then the power limiter is adjusted to allow the full 850 HP. Apparently there is just too much p-factor and torque roll at lower speeds for the rudder (and ailerons?) to handle.

Beware, since that Evolution has an even smaller rudder (and every other control surface).

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you could easily say the same thing about the P-51, right? ;)


No - an airframe designed for X hp will have control surfaces appropriate to the engine. It's quite possible to make a plane uncontrollable with power the rudder can't handle.


I've read from multiple reputable sources that the Mustang has more horsepower than the control surfaces can handle at low speeds. A P-51 owner told me that go-arounds are a tough maneuver to execute well.


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I was surprised at how small the wings and control surfaces were on this plane. Stall is 68 kts.

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I was surprised at how small the wings and control surfaces were on this plane. Stall is 68 kts.

When you don't hang it on the prop! :drool:

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I was surprised at how small the wings and control surfaces were on this plane. Stall is 68 kts.

When you don't hang it on the prop! :drool:


great point. Power overcomes lots of shortcomings.
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I operate an 850 HP Evo. Once you go through the training and get familiar with the airframe its a pretty docile airplane. Take off is @ 55% Power. * If at altitudes like Toluca, México 8,500 feet altitude I use 65-70% Power with full fuel, passengers, bags + 30 gal Aux tank. Once 1,000 feet above the ground.- clean the bird and then Power Up!! * I do recognize you can´t go full power in go-around or you will certainly run out of rudder! :bugeye:
Stall is 61 kts "but" learned from experience that if your carrying too much fuel and full passengers you have to increase speed a bit so yes, it can be curve from 61 kts and highter depending on landing weight...


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I operate an 850 HP Evo.<snip>

I'm jealous! :bow:

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