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Post subject: Long live the turboprop !  Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 00:01 |
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Yes, I know I'm slightly biased and we are living in the jet age, but I still get a grin flying the propellers. I walked out to the ramp a couple days ago and took off in a plane with over 4 hours fuel in it, 9 seatbelts, covered over 200 NM, climbed to FL350, trued over 290 knots and burned only 480 lbs chock to chock all in less than an hour. 380 pph fuel flow in cruise for both engines. Oh, and it will "go" out of under 2,500' at sea level. Like a Swiss Army knife . . . or maybe a leatherman is more hip. This technology may come into fashion again next time fuel goes up! Long live the turboprop  http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N695KG
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Post subject: Re: Long live the turboprop ! Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 00:52 |
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Makes me wonder why anyone would want a SETP!
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Post subject: Re: Long live the turboprop ! Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 12:03 |
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Because The TBM can do it just as fast on less fuel and maintenance. Username Protected wrote: Makes me wonder why anyone would want a SETP!
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Post subject: Re: Long live the turboprop ! Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 12:06 |
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Username Protected wrote: Makes me wonder why anyone would want a SETP!
minus 3 seats
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Post subject: Re: Long live the turboprop ! Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 12:06 |
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Username Protected wrote: Makes me wonder why anyone would want a SETP!
You guys ... 
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Post subject: Re: Long live the turboprop ! Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 12:07 |
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Username Protected wrote: minus 3 seats SETP's only have 6 seats?
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Post subject: Re: Long live the turboprop ! Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 12:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: Makes me wonder why anyone would want a SETP!
Because you would need 2 TBMs to carry 9 people or if you had less people and wanted to go farther the TBM would have to stop. Then you have that engine failure problem!
I think you will find the fuel burn on this commander matches the SETP fuel burn at 290-300kts.
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Post subject: Re: Long live the turboprop ! Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 12:18 |
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Do you really need 9 seats ? I dont.
Its cheaper for me to put any extra staff on airline.
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Post subject: Re: Long live the turboprop ! Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 12:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: Do you really need 9 seats ? I dont.
Its cheaper for me to put any extra staff on airline. Yes, mine are family. 9 is min. Parents, 6 kids and nanny. Currently three travel on commercial. The logistics are a serious pain. Co-ordinating private travel and commercial travel as one unit is not easy.
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Post subject: Re: Long live the turboprop ! Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 12:23 |
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Username Protected wrote: minus 3 seats SETP's only have 6 seats?
TBM does, which is what I was replying to.
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Post subject: Re: Long live the turboprop ! Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 12:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: Do you really need 9 seats ? I dont.
Its cheaper for me to put any extra staff on airline. No not really what I really like is the range. Makes every flight a little less stressful when I have hours of extra fuel!
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Post subject: Re: Long live the turboprop ! Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 13:40 |
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Username Protected wrote: FL350 to 200NM? What is the minimum distance for climbing to that high? That's about it. The general rule of thumb is 1,000 ft for every 10 nm, though I find I often go a bit higher than that. So a 200 nm flight is maybe in the mid 20s. Time spent climbing to FL350 is not worth it. If you have a headwind, that puts you more in the higher wind, and if you have a tailwind, you will need to come down before reaching cruise. So either way, not worth FL350. This was a test flight, not a "real" flight, so the objective appears to be to get to FL350 and return. They spent only 11 minutes at FL350. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N695 ... /KAPF/KAPFMike C.
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