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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 21 Sep 2020, 15:01 |
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Joined: 01/12/10 Posts: 396 Post Likes: +768 Location: Dallas, Texas
Aircraft: Piaggio P180, TTx
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Username Protected wrote: Ha, looks are in the eye of the beholder and what is music to one is noise to another. I still think it’s ugly and makes a weird noise Well I think the Baron is old, slow and outdated with the sex appeal of a small soap dish. You know what they say about opinions, right?
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 21 Sep 2020, 15:19 |
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Joined: 07/11/14 Posts: 1192 Post Likes: +311 Location: 46U
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For the record, I think that the Piaggio looks great! The noise signature, eeehhhh. Buy all noise complainers a beer or send chocolates... Problem solved!
Best,
Tom
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 21 Sep 2020, 15:30 |
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Joined: 01/12/10 Posts: 396 Post Likes: +768 Location: Dallas, Texas
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No what we do around Addison is every time we hear one pass over we say to the other in our best (worst) Italian accent "Pi AAAH gggio" Coolest Looking Bird EVER: Attachment: D42E878D-022B-4821-AC97-B1628169C5F4_4_5005_c.jpeg
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 21 Sep 2020, 15:41 |
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Joined: 01/24/10 Posts: 6730 Post Likes: +4406 Location: Concord , CA (KCCR)
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Username Protected wrote: Ha, looks are in the eye of the beholder and what is music to one is noise to another. I still think it’s ugly and makes a weird noise Well I think the Baron is old, slow and outdated with the sex appeal of a small soap dish. You know what they say about opinions, right?
HaHa, you are right Mark my Baron is old and ugly, also it’s a family heirloom.
IT’S ALSO NOT MY ONLY AIRPLANE
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 21 Sep 2020, 16:09 |
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Joined: 01/12/10 Posts: 396 Post Likes: +768 Location: Dallas, Texas
Aircraft: Piaggio P180, TTx
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[[/quote] HaHa, you are right Mark my Baron is old and ugly, also it’s a family heirloom. IT’S ALSO NOT MY ONLY AIRPLANE [/quote] Nor mine my friend ! I also have a family heirloom thats not considered very "pretty" Attachment: IMG_2045.JPG
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 21 Sep 2020, 18:35 |
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We closed on #1182 earlier this afternoon. Kudos to Neal Schwartz who put up with me during the search, negotiations and purchase. This was the first plane we tried to buy and the third. Third time was the charm!
We can argue about beauty forever. I like the Avanti but exterior looks aren't why I bought one. Performance for money was my primary driver. And my wife gets a nice flushing potty and this beautiful interior to hang out in.
Now for training, which should start in the plane next week. I go to Flight Safety on 10/26. Can't wait!
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 21 Sep 2020, 19:06 |
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Joined: 01/12/10 Posts: 396 Post Likes: +768 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Username Protected wrote: We closed on #1182 earlier this afternoon. Kudos to Neal Schwartz who put up with me during the search, negotiations and purchase. This was the first plane we tried to buy and the third. Third time was the charm!
We can argue about beauty forever. I like the Avanti but exterior looks aren't why I bought one. Performance for money was my primary driver. And my wife gets a nice flushing potty and this beautiful interior to hang out in.
Now for training, which should start in the plane next week. I go to Flight Safety on 10/26. Can't wait! Congratulations Tony, you will love the airplane! PBI is a great place for training as well, with a great set of instructors. Most likely with COVID crap going on you will get your own private instructor for the class. Ask to utilize the simulator instead of the ground trainer early on - they are more than accommodating and you can easily double your sim time that way for free! The biggest surprise is when you first lift off in your new Avanti, climb through 2 thousand and decide to go "speaker" and slip off your headsets - only to find its QUIETER with the headsets off..... Your wife won't be interested in ever changing airplanes again I guarantee you that unless you decide to upgrade to a Gulfstream.
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 21 Sep 2020, 19:08 |
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Joined: 01/12/10 Posts: 396 Post Likes: +768 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Username Protected wrote: I disagree, I think the Columbia is a nice looking airplane. I only fly it inverted however ....
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 21 Sep 2020, 23:42 |
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Joined: 01/12/10 Posts: 396 Post Likes: +768 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Username Protected wrote: The Piaggio always reminds me of this. But maybe I am just suffering from one of the seven deadly sins. LOL naaaah more like this.. Attachment: F37AFFEF-D2AE-464E-905D-0B71BEB0DA81.jpeg
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 22 Sep 2020, 00:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: What's with this noise thing. I have heard one fly over several times, was nice enough.
Bigger question, why has/does it have such sales difficulty??? Sinus wave, saw-tooth noise profile. Actually less loud than a King Air, but more obnoxious, like a table saw. Hence banned at some airports (KSMO, for instance).
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 22 Sep 2020, 11:15 |
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Joined: 01/12/10 Posts: 396 Post Likes: +768 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Username Protected wrote: What's with this noise thing. I have heard one fly over several times, was nice enough.
Bigger question, why has/does it have such sales difficulty??? Sinus wave, saw-tooth noise profile. Actually less loud than a King Air, but more obnoxious, like a table saw. Hence banned at some airports (KSMO, for instance).
Actually banned at only one US airport. The aforementioned KSMO.
Naples made noise but never did anything after Avantair bit it and they didn't have to listen to it regularly.
I think it sounds cool as hell.....
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