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 Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread.
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 Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread.
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What’s next? GLWS

Probably going to buy a TTX for my current transportation needs (under 400 miles).

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 Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread.
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Well sadly I am selling my Piaggio Avanti II. No longer in need of this size airplane since I sold my company and am concentrating on a major hotel in Texas for the next couple of years.. Dont need this much airplane but it breaks my heart to sell her :sad:

2007 Avanti II with new gear overhaul, prop overhauls and 3350 time WITH A FULLY PAID UP ESP Gold. LPV and WAAS/Charts already done. New paint. Perfect. Comes with all current inspections through June. Intercontinental Jet maintained. I am the third owner.

PM me for price and more details or email me at dmark22@mac.com

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Man that is too bad! On the other hand I hope you did well selling the company. Someone’s getting a nice II! Thanks

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your former Cowboys MU2 is on the market, plus it has your special tail number....just sayin'.........


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Counting down days now. I copied Anthony’s panel, with an old school touch...


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Wow wow wow Matt. That’s the way to move up the aviation ladder my friend! That panel is going to be fantastic. What autopilot Will you have?

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Some good flights this week. Surprised by how much junk there still is in clouds at Fl380.

Topped everything by going to fl410. Had speed at about 355tas and fuel flows 440lbs an hour or so. Feels rock solid up there. Cabin was at 7k.


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Did you sell yours Mark?

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Some good flights this week. Surprised by how much junk there still is in clouds at Fl380.

Topped everything by going to fl410. Had speed at about 355tas and fuel flows 440lbs an hour or so. Feels rock solid up there. Cabin was at 7k.


How does the performance at 410 compare to the mid 30s?

I have to admit that I get excited every time I see this thread come back up. Definitely a plane I’ve been thinking a lot about recently.


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Some good flights this week. Surprised by how much junk there still is in clouds at Fl380.

Topped everything by going to fl410. Had speed at about 355tas and fuel flows 440lbs an hour or so. Feels rock solid up there. Cabin was at 7k.


How does the performance at 410 compare to the mid 30s?

I have to admit that I get excited every time I see this thread come back up. Definitely a plane I’ve been thinking a lot about recently.


Well the fuel flows get ridiculous and speed decays to around 350 depending on weight. I find after about 120 hours I hardly ever go there mostly because the winds have been so high it just isn't worth it. I had a flight a week ago at FL390 which is as high as I've been in months. Flows under 600 lbs an hour and about 350 IIRC. Typically I'm at Fl350-360 and 650lbs going 370-380 depending on weight. Got the plane washed in Sonoma Tuesday before heading home and think it was worth about 5 knots.

Anthony's comment about the cabin is a big deal too in my opinion. In the low thirties you have about 2,500-3,000 cabin. That plus very little vibration and noise makes for a much less fatiguing flight. The only discomfort I experience on a 3-4 hour leg is a sore butt which is fixed with a trip to the relief tube in the back of the plane to stretch when there is a qualified pilot in the right seat.
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FL380 to Dallas Executive today with a 6,000ft cabin.
Fuel flow 540 lbs/hr at FL380
Speed from 350 to 365

Burned 125 gallons first hour as i was not wearing me lucky hat and Charlotte kept me down a bit longer than normal. 125 was from start up to 1 hour into flight so probable 110 gallons first flight hour.

Prop drew blood for first time this am during preflight. In a bit of wind the blades do not stay where you last noticed they were. Small cut on left eyebrow.....

Worth it :D

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First destination flight yesterday. Columbus to Phoenix with a short stop in Tulsa. Only current gremlin is an intermittent door seal light issue. Followed the procedure and descended to FL300. It’s fast but hungrier there.


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I had to look twice to see if that was for real an annunciator panel or a cabin vent. Wow that's a ton of little lights.


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Almost 400kts on 700#s is not bad at all.


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Having ridden in the back of a few of the AvantAir aircraft, and rode up front a few times (91 legs only), it is nice and comfy in the back!


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