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Post subject: Re: Question on Cirrus Aircraft Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 08:58 |
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Joined: 04/26/11 Posts: 611 Post Likes: +364 Location: SW Indiana
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Fly a SR22 between for several years. Never heard of such nonsense.
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Post subject: Re: Question on Cirrus Aircraft Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 10:07 |
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Username Protected wrote: Someone mentioned that Cirrus has an operational limitation based on the temperature of the ramp. I was told that over 120F and you can't depart? Something due to epoxy used to glue the airframe together. Old Wives tale? Or is it in the Operating limitations of the POH? In a pinch, you get one of the line-boys to bring you a bucket of propwash, dump it onto the airframe, and it will cool it down enough so that you can take off.
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Post subject: Re: Question on Cirrus Aircraft Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 12:11 |
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Username Protected wrote: Someone mentioned that Cirrus has an operational limitation based on the temperature of the ramp. I was told that over 120F and you can't depart? Something due to epoxy used to glue the airframe together. Old Wives tale? Or is it in the Operating limitations of the POH? In a pinch, you get one of the line-boys to bring you a bucket of propwash, dump it onto the airframe, and it will cool it down enough so that you can take off. You'd better plan on replacing your relative bearing grease, though. Robin
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Post subject: Re: Question on Cirrus Aircraft Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 13:07 |
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Joined: 05/11/13 Posts: 1864 Post Likes: +2200 Company: Benjamin E. Thurston, PE Location: KMYF San Diego
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Username Protected wrote: Someone mentioned that Cirrus has an operational limitation based on the temperature of the ramp. I was told that over 120F and you can't depart? Something due to epoxy used to glue the airframe together. Old Wives tale? Or is it in the Operating limitations of the POH? This may have come from the follow limitation in the SR22 POH: "To ensure that the temperature of the composite structure does not exceed 150° F (66° C), the outer surface of the airplane must be painted in accordance with the paint colors and schemes as specified in the Airplane Maintenance Manual. Refer to Airplane Maintenance Manual (AMM), Chapter 51, for specific paint requirements." This pretty much requires white paint, as I recall from Cirrus training.
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Post subject: Re: Question on Cirrus Aircraft Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 20:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: Someone mentioned that Cirrus has an operational limitation based on the temperature of the ramp. I was told that over 120F and you can't depart? Something due to epoxy used to glue the airframe together. Old Wives tale? Or is it in the Operating limitations of the POH? I believe my Cirrus only had performance data published to 41ºC. I remember fling it at 43ºC without issue.
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Post subject: Re: Question on Cirrus Aircraft Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 22:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: Someone mentioned that Cirrus has an operational limitation based on the temperature of the ramp. I was told that over 120F and you can't depart? Something due to epoxy used to glue the airframe together. Old Wives tale? Or is it in the Operating limitations of the POH? This may have come from the follow limitation in the SR22 POH: "To ensure that the temperature of the composite structure does not exceed 150° F (66° C), the outer surface of the airplane must be painted in accordance with the paint colors and schemes as specified in the Airplane Maintenance Manual. Refer to Airplane Maintenance Manual (AMM), Chapter 51, for specific paint requirements." This pretty much requires white paint, as I recall from Cirrus training.
Ben,
I believe there must have been a change to this. In the first years of production Cirrus only painted their aircraft white. Now they paint them all different colors including black.
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Post subject: Re: Question on Cirrus Aircraft Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 23:26 |
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Username Protected wrote: Maybe they were thinking of on of the Diamond models. The Katana has an operating temp limit; not sure about the others. Eric, You are correct he Katana and DA20 had temperature limit for takeoff. There was a sensor under the seat or someplace. Kevin
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Post subject: Re: Question on Cirrus Aircraft Posted: 16 Jun 2015, 01:17 |
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Joined: 06/13/15 Posts: 19 Post Likes: +34
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The responses are correct, this limitation is for Diamonds. It is also why all Diamonds are white, to keep the temperature down.
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Post subject: Re: Question on Cirrus Aircraft Posted: 22 Jun 2015, 12:55 |
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Joined: 10/24/13 Posts: 244 Post Likes: +89 Location: San Rafael California
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Didn't Velocity Aircraft have something similar to this in that you could not paint certain parts of the plane any color other than white?
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