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Post subject: Re: I always knew VREF was useless Posted: 22 Mar 2018, 18:53 |
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Joined: 07/10/10 Posts: 1262 Post Likes: +542 Company: U.S. Army (Retired) Location: Toledo, OH
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Same with the STEC 30 versus a 60-2. Can't recall at any time where I was able to have the STEC-30 do a full approach for me in my previous Mooney. No vertical speed either, which I love on the 60-2 among other things. I think it's stuck in the early 2000's. Have they even updated it for things like G500/600, Aspens, GTN's, Avidyne, etc. Brian
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Post subject: Re: I always knew VREF was useless Posted: 22 Mar 2018, 19:02 |
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I think you have to pay for the real info. Or data mine Facebook.
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Post subject: Re: I always knew VREF was useless Posted: 22 Mar 2018, 19:05 |
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Joined: 01/31/16 Posts: 381 Post Likes: +144 Location: KTKI, McKinney TX
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Username Protected wrote: Same with the STEC 30 versus a 60-2. Can't recall at any time where I was able to have the STEC-30 do a full approach for me in my previous Mooney. No vertical speed either, which I love on the 60-2 among other things. I think it's stuck in the early 2000's. Have they even updated it for things like G500/600, Aspens, GTN's, Avidyne, etc. Brian STEC-30 will not track a glideslope.
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Post subject: Re: I always knew VREF was useless Posted: 22 Mar 2018, 19:31 |
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Joined: 07/10/10 Posts: 1262 Post Likes: +542 Company: U.S. Army (Retired) Location: Toledo, OH
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Username Protected wrote: Same with the STEC 30 versus a 60-2. Can't recall at any time where I was able to have the STEC-30 do a full approach for me in my previous Mooney. No vertical speed either, which I love on the 60-2 among other things. I think it's stuck in the early 2000's. Have they even updated it for things like G500/600, Aspens, GTN's, Avidyne, etc. Brian STEC-30 will not track a glideslope. Yes, I know that...which was the point of my comment. $5.9K more for the "value" of an STEC 30 over an STEC 60-2 is insane.
Brian
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Post subject: Re: I always knew VREF was useless Posted: 22 Mar 2018, 23:13 |
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Joined: 01/28/14 Posts: 752 Post Likes: +462 Company: CCDE, Inc Location: Houston - KDWH
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VREF is great ! I got an “Aircraft Rendition” doc from a local taxing authority a few days ago - they demand to know the value of my AC for some no doubt nefarious reason. I’m OK citing the VREF value of 39K, as equipped 
_________________ CHUCK N60988 C150
I'm retired now - don't need a fast airplane anymore.
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Post subject: Re: I always knew VREF was useless Posted: 24 Mar 2018, 09:55 |
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Username Protected wrote: Keep in mind that both publications clearly state that they are GENERAL GUIDES ONLY and cannot take all attributes into account. And I would say they are useless even as a GENERAL GUIDE when they value identical avionics differently
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Post subject: Re: I always knew VREF was useless Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 07:59 |
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Joined: 10/21/16 Posts: 538 Post Likes: +235 Company: Plane Data, Inc. Location: North Carolina
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Username Protected wrote: Keep in mind that both publications clearly state that they are GENERAL GUIDES ONLY and cannot take all attributes into account. And I would say they are useless even as a GENERAL GUIDE when they value identical avionics differently
It was my feeble attempt at being nice and I think you are spot-on with this problem along with others!
_________________ Mike Simmons PSCA President Plane Data, Inc. 800-895-1382 www.planedata.com
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