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 Post subject: Re: The verdict is in.....MU-2
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can someone give me realistic numbers for a Marquise?

- Max realistic altitude?
- Full fuel payload?
- Full fuel range if flown at max realistic altitude?
- Fuel flow at max realistic altitude?
- Rule of thumb first hour fuel burn, and every hour after that.
- Max summer and winter speeds?

Thx

I’ll take a stab, but I don’t have a lot of Marquis time. More in a J and L.
-Summer FL250, winter FL280
-Full payload depends on equipment, but if it fits...
-1300ish nautical?
-65 gph total, ish
-First hour planning for 100 and 80 thereafter is safe.
-280 to 300 True depending on the planes mood?

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 Post subject: Re: The verdict is in.....MU-2
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Ship’s radar is absolutely essential for tactical weather flying/transiting a line. I have the same radar in my Mits. You will find it really helps keep you out of trouble when “close-in” to storms near your departure or arrival corridor. In cruise, NEXRAD is really a better long range planning and avoidance tool. Critical addition to your plane IMO.



I agree. From the little I played with it yesterday I was impressed with what I saw on the screen compared to out the window. Looking forward to utilizing it more on longer trips. I am curious to know over the course of say 5-10 years what additional costs involved with maintain a radar system.


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can someone give me realistic numbers for a Marquise?

- Max realistic altitude?
- Full fuel payload?
- Full fuel range if flown at max realistic altitude?
- Fuel flow at max realistic altitude?
- Rule of thumb first hour fuel burn, and every hour after that.
- Max summer and winter speeds?

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contact Earle Martin at midcoast@gte.net. He operates a Marquise on 135. Very knowledgeable and helpful.


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 Post subject: Re: The verdict is in.....MU-2
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contact Earle Martin at midcoast@gte.net. He operates a Marquise on 135. Very knowledgeable and helpful.

Earle tends to run his Marquise down low, typically high teens, with fairly high fuel flow and somewhat higher speed. He does this for passenger comfort (lower cabin altitude) and shorter flight times particularly in headwinds. His fuel flow is often over 100 GPH, however, doing that.

For the high altitude flyer, such as myself, that seems wasteful. The Marquise is pretty good to FL250 in summer, FL280 in winter, but it isn't spritely up there. Climb rates at end of climb near gross will be 400ish FPM. There is a lot of weight on a quite small wing.

Cruise will be 270 in summer, maybe 290 in winter, due to temps. Fuel flow will be 65-80 GPH depending on temps and altitude chosen.

Range is ~1100-1200 nm to have 1 hour reserve. A few long bodies have gear canoe tanks ("titty tanks" in MU2 speak) which can extend the range a bit, maybe 150 nm or so. MU2s are not very long range aircraft, consider 441 for that.

I would guess Marquise fuel profile is 95 gallons 230 nm first hour, 75 gallons 280 nm each additional.

I don't know exact numbers for fuel fuel payload, but I think it is around 800-1000 lbs.

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I'm adding the G600 to my MU2 in a few weeks. My primary gyro needed overhaul and rather than spending the money on that, I sourced a used G600 to install. I'm really excited about this upgrade. AHRS, GSS steering, radar stab, synthetic vision and a much larger format to view charts, weather and traffic will improve SA significantly. I'm 3 years in and about 300 hours in the MU2 and couldn't be happier with the move. There's been no major surprises and MX costs have all been within the range I expected. I'm flying to TN from Dallas Saturday to drop it off for the 100/200 hr inspection. If anyone in the Dallas area wants a ride PM me. I We will have to airline back from Nashville.


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For anyone interested, attached is the SOAP report from Honeywell. Its always a hold your breath moment when I open one up during inspection. Both were NORMAL. Normal = Good = no big $$$.
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Just read this whole thread. Great read, thanks for keeping the updates coming!


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I'm adding the G600 to my MU2 in a few weeks. My primary gyro needed overhaul and rather than spending the money on that, I sourced a used G600 to install. I'm really excited about this upgrade. AHRS, GSS steering, radar stab, synthetic vision and a much larger format to view charts, weather and traffic will improve SA significantly. I'm 3 years in and about 300 hours in the MU2 and couldn't be happier with the move. There's been no major surprises and MX costs have all been within the range I expected. I'm flying to TN from Dallas Saturday to drop it off for the 100/200 hr inspection. If anyone in the Dallas area wants a ride PM me. I We will have to airline back from Nashville.


We are heading the same direction on our Mu2... we had an HSI die in May 2018 and it has taken 6 attempts to get it repaired from the big name repairer... I think it’s just EOL. Who is doing your 600 install?

SOAPs are always scary. Thankfully I just pull them myself and drop them with Ray at the SOAP lab at Honeywell in Phx and he usually calls me a few hours later with the “all good” (except that time it wasn’t lol).

Back to the G600... what will drive the autopilot?

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Back to the G600... what will drive the autopilot?


NEVERMIND... I got it. :cheers: :dance: :pilot:

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I'm adding the G600 to my MU2 in a few weeks. My primary gyro needed overhaul and rather than spending the money on that, I sourced a used G600 to install. I'm really excited about this upgrade. AHRS, GSS steering, radar stab, synthetic vision and a much larger format to view charts, weather and traffic will improve SA significantly. I'm 3 years in and about 300 hours in the MU2 and couldn't be happier with the move. There's been no major surprises and MX costs have all been within the range I expected. I'm flying to TN from Dallas Saturday to drop it off for the 100/200 hr inspection. If anyone in the Dallas area wants a ride PM me. I We will have to airline back from Nashville.

James, I’m amazed there are any used G600s at all. Was it from a salvage aircraft?

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I'm adding the G600 to my MU2 in a few weeks. My primary gyro needed overhaul and rather than spending the money on that, I sourced a used G600 to install. I'm really excited about this upgrade. AHRS, GSS steering, radar stab, synthetic vision and a much larger format to view charts, weather and traffic will improve SA significantly. I'm 3 years in and about 300 hours in the MU2 and couldn't be happier with the move. There's been no major surprises and MX costs have all been within the range I expected. I'm flying to TN from Dallas Saturday to drop it off for the 100/200 hr inspection. If anyone in the Dallas area wants a ride PM me. I We will have to airline back from Nashville.

James, I’m amazed there are any used G600s at all. Was it from a salvage aircraft?


No. I was at the right place at the right time. Shop had pulled it for a G600txi install. I got lucky.

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James - Did you consider / check into TXI? I assume they aren’t approved yet? G600 is great, but I have this affliction for the newest toys for the old airframes...

I am approaching 250 hours. Couldn’t be happier...


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James - Did you consider / check into TXI? I assume they aren’t approved yet? G600 is great, but I have this affliction for the newest toys for the old airframes...

I am approaching 250 hours. Couldn’t be happier...


It’s quite a bit more money. This way was about 1/2 the cost. Glad you’re enjoying your Mits. It really is a phenomenal plane.


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I was considering the TXi upgrade as I’m having to replace my G600s... and I didn’t see the appeal. I’m not a huge fan of the touchscreen, although I do like my GTNs.


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It’s quite a bit more money. This way was about 1/2 the cost.

That's what I decided to do in the Navajo. Bought a used G600 for a lot less. I also love having the buttons on the left side of the bezel. Plus, I figured it's an easy upgrade path to the TXi after a few years and some Gamin software updates.

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