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450-HP AI-450S turboshaft engine built by the Ukrainian company Motor Sich JSC
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 Post subject: Re: Diamont Single Turboprop first flight
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What is a Diamont?

:D

I could not resist. Anyway, kinda cool concept. Wonder if Diamond will ever get any of the new planes into production....

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 Post subject: Re: Diamont Single Turboprop first flight
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Cool, I admire Diamond's effort. I hope they certify it.

Pressurized? I bet you can buy that turbine cheaper than a TSIO-550.

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Does not look like it's pressurized to me.


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First saw this a/c on static display at AERO in Friedrichshafen a couple of years back. Glad to see the program is still alive.


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Wow. 2:30am after a 12 pack of Milwaukees best and i still wouldn't take her home


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Yikes very awkward looking, need a few drinks or 10 before bringing her back to the dorm room


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450-HP AI-450S turboshaft engine

That is a sweet looking engine. Looks like a clean and compact design. The fuel specifics aren't great, but on par with the Allison of about the same size and just the nature of the beast for small turbines. The weight is excellent, 270 pounds.

If this engine can be bought new for under $100K, that will revolutionize GA, particularly in Europe where 100LL is $10/gal and Jet-A is $3. Lots of retrofit possibilities.

If I was making a new airframe for the engine, it would be pressurized, retractable, and FIKI. But that's just me...

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450-HP AI-450S turboshaft engine

That is a sweet looking engine. Looks like a clean and compact design. The fuel specifics aren't great, but on par with the Allison of about the same size and just the nature of the beast for small turbines. The weight is excellent, 270 pounds.

If this engine can be bought new for under $100K, that will revolutionize GA, particularly in Europe where 100LL is $10/gal and Jet-A is $3. Lots of retrofit possibilities.

If I was making a new airframe for the engine, it would be pressurized, retractable, and FIKI. But that's just me...

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It would probably match up pretty well with a 58p.
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It's all about the ability to burn kerosene, especially in Europe.

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450-HP AI-450S turboshaft engine

That is a sweet looking engine. Looks like a clean and compact design. The fuel specifics aren't great, but on par with the Allison of about the same size and just the nature of the beast for small turbines. The weight is excellent, 270 pounds.

If this engine can be bought new for under $100K, that will revolutionize GA, particularly in Europe where 100LL is $10/gal and Jet-A is $3. Lots of retrofit possibilities.

If I was making a new airframe for the engine, it would be pressurized, retractable, and FIKI. But that's just me...

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Patrick is right, I have seen over $12 per liter in Europe and Africa.

Anything that burns kerosene is in high demand in the overseas market.


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[quote="Patrick J. Carter"]It's all about the ability to burn kerosene, especially in Europe.

Main market for Diamond turboprop USA, Canada, Germany . You can ask guys at this forum You want to burn expensive Avgas or Kerosene ? AI-450S turbo-shaft engine price $55-60K . I think PW will buy him very soon and the price will be $180 000 :D .We have a monopoly


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AI-450S turbo-shaft engine price $55-60K.

WOW. That is revolutionary. They could sell thousands for aftermarket upgrades.

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Or "not available". Sigh.

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