BeechTalk - BT - Cessna Citation M2 Impressive runway performance

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 17:30

I am impressed very nice jet
[youtube]http://youtu.be/7JE5XfBK6b0[/youtube]

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 18:27

That was impressive! I don't see how you can not buy one of those after that demonstration flight. We'll be waiting for pictures of your new bird. :popcorn:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 18:30

Wow
Better than my Turbo Norm....
It does help that this guy knew his bird down pat.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 18:32

Um yeah. How many sets of brakes will go through a year doing that? Guy was standing on the brakes.

Cool vid though.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 18:46

Really cool. I read a Flying magazine article last week that said with pilots only in the plane a large ballast is needed for W&B. Didn't like the sound of that. If we didn't need to haul so many people most of the time I'd trade the Pilatus off on one.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 18:59

I remember a Citation I pilot once challenging a Lear 24 pilot to a race. He said, "you pick the city pair, I pick the runway."

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 19:09

Username Protected wrote:

Really cool. I read a Flying magazine article last week that said with pilots only in the plane a large ballast is needed for W&B. Didn't like the sound of that. If we didn't need to haul so many people most of the time I'd trade the Pilatus off on one.

This is true of every jet I have flown.

I have to throw at least a 50lb bag in the nose or co-pilot seat when solo to get just barely inside of the Aft-CG limit. It's not at all a big deal. Even if I am flying the jet by myself, I am usually going somewhere. Just throw your luggage up there.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 19:11

Username Protected wrote:

Um yeah. How many sets of brakes will go through a year doing that? Guy was standing on the brakes.

Cool vid though.

Was it just the brakes? That approach speed also looks rather slow, but I could not see any KIAS.

Tim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 19:12

There's only 1 way to stop an M2...... brakes.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 19:52

Username Protected wrote:

There's only 1 way to stop an M2...... brakes.

And ground flaps and spoilers.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 21:01

When I was at Okracoke Island this summer a Jet landed there, I think it was a Cessna of some type. That runway is under 3k I believe. I was at my airport which is 3100x60 when some guy landed in a Beechjet 400

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 21:15

Username Protected wrote:

I have to throw at least a 50lb bag in the nose or co-pilot seat when solo to get just barely inside of the Aft-CG limit.

Is ice accretion on the vertical fin any consideration? If you just get it (barely) inside the aft limit, how many pounds of ice will pull it aft and out?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 21:24

man I hated that vid

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 21:27

I did a demo flight in this exact aircraft last week. We landed on a wet runway and stood on the brakes. Very impressive anti-lock system - it reacted quickly when the wheels locked up on the paint marks and we stopped promptly. All in all a very nice stable aircraft and it's extremely quiet inside but it is not light on the controls like the Baron or our Hawker. Those two aircraft are pilot spoilers.....

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Dec 2014, 21:35

Username Protected wrote:

but it is not light on the controls like the Baron or our Hawker. Those two aircraft are pilot spoilers.....

Now that type of statement just screws my mind all up. And I would guess the Hawker probably cruises at 450 too. Man once you fly a Baron, the bar is high.