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 Post subject: Ride in the Aerostar Jet!
PostPosted: 14 Oct 2012, 03:04 
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Hi Guys,

Last weekend at the Aerostar Owners Association meeting, I got a ride in the Aerostar Jet. :woot: All I can say is WOW! I admit that I was pretty skeptical before flying it but now I think that this really is the plane that Eclipse SHOULD have built. We had 4 adults +my 6 year old (50 lbs) on board and we were getting 4,500-5,000 ft./min climb.

It is basically an Aerostar merged with the engines from a Citation Mustang. With the exception of being quieter, a single power lever for each engine and a LOT more power I wouldn't be able to tell the difference from my Aerostar. It flew EXACTLY like my plane. In go fast mode, it should get 380+Kts. However, I was told that at 700P speeds (240-250Kts) on a typical trip, the fuel burn will be similar to the piston version! I asked Jim Christy regarding fuel capacity/payload and he told me that the ultimate plan is 300gal total with a full fuel payload of 890 lbs.

It is still experimental but they are working hard on getting it certified. How much? They are saying 1.6M to upgrade an existing airframe and they could tool up and produce completely new ones for 2.5M.

Fred Eisert said it best in another thread. The ride was terrible, now my plane seems slow. Unfortunately, I can't afford one :sad: ...yet!

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That is amazing. Darwin Conrad at Rocket Engineering must be drooling. I'm really surprised at the wing strength and the fuel burn.

5000 fpm climb in a 20+ degree bank at 190 IAS going through 7000 feet must be exhilarating!


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That is one good looking plane.

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I love that mini-737 look out the wing. Badass.

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Wow, beautiful. Looks like a real plane! Really does look like a mini 737! Must have bee great climbing at 5,000 feet a minute!!!
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That altimeter really winds fast at 5k ft/min.


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That altimeter really winds fast at 5k ft/min.


That's what I noticed .... amazing :drool:


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Hello everybody, first post here; be gentle.
Why building a Jet Aerostar and not a Turboprop Aerostar (twin or single)? I would imagine a turboprop has advantages on CAPEX and OPEX over a Jet, and within the flight envelope of the Aerostar fuselage, Jet advantages are not so important (I´m guessing here).


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That altimeter really winds fast at 5k ft/min.


That's what I noticed .... amazing :drool:


And the ASI was pretty darn high through all that too (ASI w/o a barberpole - not used to seeing that when also hearing turbine sounds....)
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Holy Crap that's awesome! Congrats on getting the chance to fly it with Jim :clap:


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This doesn't really surprise me. Ted Smith built (or shall I say overbuilt) the Aerostar to eventually take jets. It just wasn't in the cards at the time. Nice to see someone following through with Ted's vision.


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I heard there was early talk of aft mounted turbofan engines for the Aerostar, as well?


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