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 Post subject: Second plane for a partnership. Taildragger??
PostPosted: 02 Dec 2014, 08:33 
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I have an A36 and I love the plane. I have several friends in the same place. We have the travel plane for family, friends and high useful load. None of us want partners on our main plane, but to have a second plane for just flying pattern or slow and low would be fun. Looking at the tail wheel endorsement but once you get it where are you go to rent?

Idea was 4-5 going in on a small 2 passenger plane. So far the ideas were a Cub, Citabria, Champ or RV3/4. I don't see me wanting to do aerobatics but flying a bit of stick and rudder would be fun. The RV got thrown in last weekend after one of the guys went flying in one and got a perma-grin on his face.

I see a lot of guys with the Bo plus another. Ideas??


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If you have 4-5 guys going together on a Champ, it's almost free flying!


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Although not in my short term future, I've smarted off a few times with a Navion owner on the same grass strip as my -35 about going in together on a "rag wing" for those days when it is too soggy to taxi a 2000# aircraft. Isn't much fun watching the 2 seaters out having fun on a clear day after a good shower.

But the wallet is only so big ...


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I have an A36 and I love the plane. I have several friends in the same place. We have the travel plane for family, friends and high useful load. None of us want partners on our main plane, but to have a second plane for just flying pattern or slow and low would be fun. Looking at the tail wheel endorsement but once you get it where are you go to rent?

Idea was 4-5 going in on a small 2 passenger plane. So far the ideas were a Cub, Citabria, Champ or RV3/4. I don't see me wanting to do aerobatics but flying a bit of stick and rudder would be fun. The RV got thrown in last weekend after one of the guys went flying in one and got a perma-grin on his face.

I see a lot of guys with the Bo plus another. Ideas??


You guys could just quick build a CarbonCub for about 100AMU.

Silly performance, experimental freedom.


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Once this cold snap ends I'd like to fly down there. I go over there on the way to Hard 8 BBQ.


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Paul,
I have been thinking this same thing for a year or so. How nice it would be to split a Champ among four people and be able to just go burn 4 gallons on a pretty afternoon or morning, plus get some tailwheel time. I think every airport should have a community cub or champ :D

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I know several people who have done just that: Citabria, cub, helo, even a stearman on top of their Bo's or Baron's.
They all seem to have that silly grin on their faces after they fly those things....

I'm thinking staggerwing, but then I've always been different....

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I just bought a Citabria for exactly the same reasons you mention. It is crazy fun to fly. I also note that it has made me a better pilot. The other day coming in to land in a nice gusty crosswind, my landing was much better... I attribute that to the practice with the rudder pedals and really having to keep the nose straight down the runway.

For me, the Citabria had a little larger cabin, was certified, and was relatively inexpensive. I just couldn't see spending 200 AMU on a LSA.

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Two of us just did this with a 170A a few months ago. Great fun for 6-7 gph. Insurance was very reasonable as well.


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Citabria's a great choice.
Plenty of power to drag 2 guys & fuel to go somewhere.
Docile on the ground as far as taildraggers go.

We hope to be on skis soon, just took it off the water a couple weeks ago.


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My dad had a Super Decathlon for this purpose in the early 2000's. Lots of fun, though a Citabria is probably 90% there if you're not doing much acro. I think you'd want something that can go upside down, i'd imagine someone in the group of co-owners would like that and I'm in the camp that it makes a better pilot (plus, it's on the continuum of "stick and rudder, flying around with nowhere to go")

A friend has a Husky on amphib floats for this purpose. If you have lakes around where you are, that's a ton of fun (and if you have a lake house, there's even some utility)


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Where would it be kept Paul ?

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I'm partial to this one, Paul. And it is in DFW, so I'll run it over there sometime and you, too, can get a 'dose' of the fever!


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I am hoping Mesquite will be the home base, but KLNC or other in area is fine for me.

CK, I'm 5 minutes from KHQZ. Bring that over and lets go grab a burger.

Also, very glad to hear that other guys have had this same urge and found a scratch.


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