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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 10:15 |
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Username Protected wrote: start building a cheap turboprop engine Anybody who figures out how to build a 250-500hp turboprop that can match the total ownership cost of an IO-540 over 1000 hours will sell a lot of them. Hasn't happened yet and doesn't look close either.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 11:03 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19252 Post Likes: +23622 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: Nobody wants to sift through all your bad predictions in this thread. ... It's worth having this thread to remind myself that a guy like you is out there, functioning in this world without a lick of common sense. That's your usual back pedal when you've lied about what someone has said. Then, for good measure, you insult them as well. It really is kindergarten level stuff. I have to assume the Jeffs condone your abuse given how extensive and chronic it is. If you only stated your views and didn't insult others, BT would improve a lot. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 11:27 |
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Joined: 01/29/08 Posts: 26431 Post Likes: +13066 Location: Walterboro, SC. KRBW
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Username Protected wrote: That's your usual back pedal when you've lied about what someone has said. Then, for good measure, you insult them as well. It really is kindergarten level stuff.
I have to assume the Jeffs condone your abuse given how extensive and chronic it is. If you only stated your views and didn't insult others, BT would improve a lot.
Mike C. You have a chronic history of doing exactly what you accuse me of doing. One need only reference this thread and a few others to see that you cannot debate a subject without making personal attacks. Nor can you take a dose of your own medicine.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 19:09 |
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Joined: 01/01/10 Posts: 3457 Post Likes: +2400 Location: Roseburg, Oregon
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Username Protected wrote: ...I'll bet you $100 that 2 new SF 50 sized turbine engines are more expensive than 1. Now that's funny right there! I don't care who you are.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 20:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: start building a cheap turboprop engine Anybody who figures out how to build a 250-500hp turboprop that can match the total ownership cost of an IO-540 over 1000 hours will sell a lot of them. Hasn't happened yet and doesn't look close either.
Need people and investors with a different mentality , how were the people and engineers of the 60s and 70s as Elon Musk today .
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 22:51 |
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Joined: 11/06/10 Posts: 11898 Post Likes: +2854 Company: Looking Location: Outside Boston, or some hotel somewhere
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Username Protected wrote: Anybody who figures out how to build a 250-500hp turboprop that can match the total ownership cost of an IO-540 over 1000 hours will sell a lot of them. Hasn't happened yet and doesn't look close either. https://www.turb.aero/Not affiliated, just watching them. Tim
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2017, 23:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: start building a cheap turboprop engine Anybody who figures out how to build a 250-500hp turboprop that can match the total ownership cost of an IO-540 over 1000 hours will sell a lot of them. Hasn't happened yet and doesn't look close either.
That person may even be able to afford a single engine jet
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 01:17 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19252 Post Likes: +23622 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: You have a chronic history of doing exactly what you accuse me of doing. Another lie, of course. It is the fashion these days, apparently. I'm also amused at the "I'm no worse" excuse as if that makes it all okay. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 10:23 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19252 Post Likes: +23622 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: The Jeffs have JC and MC on the payroll to draw us in. :stir: I read a BT thread and hockey game broke out... Physical threats are a new low, sadly. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 10:33 |
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Joined: 11/27/07 Posts: 4290 Post Likes: +1434 Company: BeechTalk Location: Pontiac, MI (KPTK)
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Username Protected wrote: I have to assume the Jeffs condone your abuse given how extensive and chronic it is. If you only stated your views and didn't insult others, BT would improve a lot.
Mike C. Your assumption is incorrect--in fact, we do not condone the actions of either one of you. The bickering between you two needs to stop.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 10:35 |
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Username Protected wrote: Your assumption is incorrect--in fact, we do not condone the actions of either one of you. The bickering between you two needs to stop. I'm all for it. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 15:01 |
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Joined: 11/06/10 Posts: 11898 Post Likes: +2854 Company: Looking Location: Outside Boston, or some hotel somewhere
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Username Protected wrote: Your assumption is incorrect--in fact, we do not condone the actions of either one of you. The bickering between you two needs to stop. Awe man, I was hoping this would be the first thread to hit 500 pages.
Tim (in green, just for JC)
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 12 Dec 2017, 15:25 |
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Username Protected wrote: Awe man, I was hoping this would be the first thread to hit 500 pages.
Well of course there are already threads that exceed 500 pages. This one will go on to become the top thread on BT and will likely never be surpassed. Why? Because it's a V Tail jet that the majority of BT'ers secretly or overtly wish they had in their hangars, warts be damned. It's the plane Bonanza owners, especially V tail owners, wished Beech/Textron had the attachments to build. It's a personal F16 for gawd's sake!! Embrace the emotion of it. The era of aviation being dominated by crusty, old, boring, by the book, way too serious aviators is coming to an end. The SF50 and A5 are ushering in a new era. An era where emotions takes it rightful place place along side rational practicalities. As it should be.
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