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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 24 Apr 2018, 21:04 |
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You have low weather in your red parantheses. Replace weather (sometimes an issue) with flying over 2-3-4 countries (for some, always an issue) where a stop due to fuel could trigger the need for landing permits and delays due to immigration or other issues. Range is trump in this situation every time.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 24 Apr 2018, 21:20 |
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Joined: 08/16/15 Posts: 2899 Post Likes: +3608 Location: Ogden UT
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Yeah, if I were to stop in Canada, in addition to higher fuel prices, would have to APIS and clear customs. That would cut into the convenience. Other places I have found range awesome is when flying at night. Many FBO's close early, and I have even found that in certain parts of the country, some are closed on Sundays. Widespread convection which is easy to navigate in the flight levels becomes a little more stressful when you have to descend into IMC with embedded convection for a fuel stop. Areas of high winds, blowing dust, low level turbulence, may involve large swaths of land, flying above that also nice.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 24 Apr 2018, 23:07 |
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Joined: 08/15/11 Posts: 2398 Post Likes: +1063 Location: Mandan, ND
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Username Protected wrote: ...and the only one I have flown that I thought had "enough" power was the F-2G Corsair with 4360 cubic inches and 3000+ horsepower. It had enough... I never once used all of it. F-2G Super Corsair, my favorite plane of all time. There is one nearby, maybe you have flown it?
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 25 Apr 2018, 11:10 |
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Joined: 06/05/11 Posts: 387 Post Likes: +172 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Username Protected wrote: The true question becomes, "How far will it go in 4 hours?" If you want something that goes further, do yourself a favor and get something that goes faster. Yep. Or "where can I go for a weekend trip?" I laugh when people discuss the time difference between planes for a 100 nm or even a 200 nm flight. To me a 100 nm trip I'm driving. Oh sure, I'll do a fly-in get together or $100 hamburger run to fly or shoot some approaches for practice, but a real trip that short? I do it in the car. Maybe somewhere with mountains or water in between the locations making the drive much longer it might make sense to fly.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 May 2018, 22:16 |
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N881VC there is a good page of details on Face Book, Private Jet Pilots.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 May 2018, 22:32 |
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Joined: 02/13/10 Posts: 20127 Post Likes: +23625 Location: Castle Rock, Colorado
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Username Protected wrote: N881VC there is a good page of details on Face Book, Private Jet Pilots. So.....what happened?
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 May 2018, 22:37 |
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Joined: 02/07/16 Posts: 567 Post Likes: +160 Location: KPMP, KHPN, LFPB
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Engine issues and returned to land. Discovered oil on Fuselage. Check the Flightaware path of the tail#
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 May 2018, 22:46 |
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Joined: 02/13/10 Posts: 20127 Post Likes: +23625 Location: Castle Rock, Colorado
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 May 2018, 22:48 |
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Username Protected wrote: Check the Flightaware path of the tail# Uninterrupted descent all the way to the runway at 1000-2000 FPM descent. Descent rate decreases as speed decreases. The diversion to KHUF occurs exactly when the descent occurs. That's about what I'd expect for a power off glide profile. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 May 2018, 23:22 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19252 Post Likes: +23622 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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http://archive-server.liveatc.net/khuf/ ... -0200Z.mp3"As long as we can make the runway, we will be okay. Oil pressure is good at idle". Sounds like an oil problem but not an engine shutdown, then a flight idle descent to landing. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 12 May 2018, 18:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: To me a 100 nm trip I'm driving. Maybe. I do HPN-OWD regularly (136 nm direct). I save maybe 30 min each way door to door. What I lose, though, is the risk I'll get stuck in traffic, which drives me crazy. Friday or Sunday afternoon in the summer it can be 4-5 hrs, vs. about 3 with no traffic. Seems reasonable and more enjoyable to fly.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 13 May 2018, 15:47 |
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Username Protected wrote: Engine issues and returned to land. Discovered oil on Fuselage. Check the Flightaware path of the tail# My sources say that the oil cap was not secured.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 13 May 2018, 17:52 |
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Username Protected wrote: Engine issues and returned to land. Discovered oil on Fuselage. Check the Flightaware path of the tail# My sources say that the oil cap was not secured.
That was my guess as well. I would assume that if you have triggered a low oil pressure warning that damage could have been done to the motor and it will have to be inspected? At least with a Citation, it is recommended to shut it down with such a warning. Maybe with a single engine jet you leave it running for a last burst of power before it seizes?
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 13 May 2018, 18:10 |
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Username Protected wrote: Engine issues and returned to land. Discovered oil on Fuselage. Check the Flightaware path of the tail# My sources say that the oil cap was not secured.
Williams has had a few different oil cap lock designs to try and fool proof the cap. Guess they have to keep on trying.
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