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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50  Posted: 19 Sep 2017, 19:58 |
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I sat in one with my wife at the NBAA Expo at MMU. The interior makes a Mustang cockpit look antiquated. Spending most of a pilots time inside I could almost forget it has one engine.
As Allan eluded to, besides the performance characteristics, the real appeal of this bird is the cabin and cockpit. If you haven't been in one yet, you really need to see it. The space inside and layout are just incredible. There's absolutely nothing else like it.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 19 Sep 2017, 20:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'd find his argument that it would be cheaper as a twin jet more compelling if there actually were any cheaper twin jets. Every delivered Eclipse was cheaper than the SF50, even when adjusted for inflation. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 19 Sep 2017, 21:04 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'd find his argument that it would be cheaper as a twin jet more compelling if there actually were any cheaper twin jets. Every delivered Eclipse was cheaper than the SF50, even when adjusted for inflation. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 19 Sep 2017, 21:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: Every delivered Eclipse was cheaper than the SF50, even when adjusted for inflation ... and it bankrupted the company. Yet even freed from all that debt, now new Eclipse's cost more than the SF50. The Eclipse was only cheaper when sold at an unsustainable loss. Welcome back, Mike!
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 19 Sep 2017, 22:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: The Eclipse was only cheaper when sold at an unsustainable loss. Which may also be the case for the SF50 as well. At this stage of deliveries, about 15 or so, Eclipse wasn't bankrupt either. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 19 Sep 2017, 23:15 |
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Spent an hour or so today going thru a production version visiting the shop for a mushy brake pedal. It's pretty darn awesome. Several interior and trim pieces didn't seem quite ready for prime time. I'd say it was stuff you'd be ok with ina mock up, but if it were x,xxx,xxx $ of my ones I would have had them fixed at my delivery inspection. I'm sold on it none the less. The panel is amazingly clean. So elegant. Great visibility. Comfortable seats, USB and cup holders all over the place. The only thing I missed seeing was the baggage compartment. The x tail is beautiful. I'm in love with another forked tail lady. Please don't tell Trixie. I guess with my new ATP SEL, I may get a chance to fly one someday. 
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 20 Sep 2017, 08:13 |
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Username Protected wrote: Which may also be the case for the SF50 as well.
At this stage of deliveries, about 15 or so, Eclipse wasn't bankrupt either.
Mike C. Care to make a wager? Not sure why I'm asking, you never took me up on the last bet I proposed. Good thing too because you'd owe.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 20 Sep 2017, 23:33 |
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The comp for a Cirrus Jet is the TBM. The TBM has longer range, but the Jet has a lot fewer moving parts and a huge cabin. And a parachute. I'd take the Cirrus everytime in that comparison....
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 20 Sep 2017, 23:48 |
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Username Protected wrote: The comp for a Cirrus Jet is the TBM. The TBM has longer range, but the Jet has a lot fewer moving parts and a huge cabin. And a parachute. I'd take the Cirrus everytime in that comparison.... Agreed. Particularly, when Cirrus is 1/2 the price.
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