BeechTalk - BT - Lancair IV-p

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Jul 2016, 18:08

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Mike, ATP, CFI, CFII, MEI, MES, SES, Glider, EA50.

MIke,

Your posts describe a thoroughly prepared, detailed pilot who not only has been well trained, but who is a pilot trainer himself. A great combination of skills that is an enviable accomplishment to most of us here.

No doubt, you will continue to do well... enjoy your pocket rocket! :cheers:

Best regards, Jerry

Ok, I got it now. It was a shot at the pilot and had nothing to do with the plane. Thank you for explaining

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Jul 2016, 18:27

Buys SE plane with high fatality rate
Shrugs off insurance and initial training
Says he stalled it, no big deal
Doesn't even know the glide ratio, but says it must be great!

I have no insurance because I don't want insurance. I self insure; I don't think there is is anything wrong with this idea. No check out because I needed to fly the plane home. It seemed totally fine for VFR day flying. I didn't feel I was buying a space shuttle.

I stalled the airplane based on the relationship I had with the builder and his advice. That's a true statement, the stall is no big deal.

I honestly don't know the glide ratio of any airplane I own or have owned. It's totally irrelevant. If a motor quits, it's going to end up where it ends up and that's totally out of my control. Fly the Airplane. This number is not going to change my flight planning.

You want to fly with me? I can't find many people to do this job?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Jul 2016, 19:37

Could I be the beneficiary of your baron :peace:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Jul 2016, 20:10

Michael, you are a far braver man than I am.........PC12 is a docile bird, I flew 70 hours with a mentor before I even flew alone.........my glide ratio in the PC12 is 16 to 1 or about 2.5 NM for every 1000ft.

Please get as much training as possible mate.........you owe it to us. :peace:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Jul 2016, 20:10

Haha someone needs my Baron no $250 offers please!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Jul 2016, 20:25

Michael,

Congrats!

You sound like someone I would be comfortable flying with.

There are three here in my bay of hangars. All three are awesome airplanes. The three owners have differing levels of experience and two of them built their own with help. I would love to own any of the three, if I could afford it. Two of them have been here for over 18 years and all three fly regularly. I have 100+ hours in one of them and I'm far less intimidated by them than a twin.

There has been a lot of bashing of this plane. There is a lot of bashing of GA in general by non-pilots too. I don't agree with either.

Enjoy! What a wonderful sports car in the sky.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Jul 2016, 22:03

I have lots of abbreviations on the back of my pilot certificate. When a friend offered me unlimited use of his Lancair IV and said, "don't worry about insurance, just take out a 250k life insurance policy payable to me," I knew that airplane wasn't for me.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Jul 2016, 22:26

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Michael, you are a far braver man than I am.........PC12 is a docile bird, I flew 70 hours with a mentor before I even flew alone.........my glide ratio in the PC12 is 16 to 1 or about 2.5 NM for every 1000ft.

Please get as much training as possible mate.........you owe it to us. :peace:

Michael, Michael Michael, surely you know not to stall the PC12. That plane will end up upside down every time, that is why the stick shaker is not optional

Some nice videos out there though with the PC12 shaker inactivated.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Jul 2016, 23:03

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Michael, you are a far braver man than I am.........PC12 is a docile bird, I flew 70 hours with a mentor before I even flew alone.........my glide ratio in the PC12 is 16 to 1 or about 2.5 NM for every 1000ft.

Please get as much training as possible mate.........you owe it to us. :peace:

Michael, Michael Michael, surely you know not to stall the PC12. That plane will end up upside down every time, that is why the stick shaker is not optional

Some nice videos out there though with the PC12 shaker inactivated.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 Jul 2016, 23:16

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The nastiest stall there is. You most likely will not recover from it.

This is the plane to have a chute on. Engine outs have a super high mortality rate. Higher than about any other plane. I looked up the stats and I have shared them in the past. As I recall, it was over 50% mortality.

Please be careful. Add a chute.

Have you actually flown one? Stall a T-6 and hope you got 8000 feet to recover and how many guys own and fly t-6s? I have gone shaking on my iv-p at 65 knots and it tells me that it had enough nothing nasty about it with quick recovery
I rather stall my ivp than a non recoverable cheap plastic cirri

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jul 2016, 00:51

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Have you actually flown one?

I rather stall my ivp than a non recoverable cheap plastic cirri

Have you ever stalled a Cirrus? :scratch:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jul 2016, 03:45

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"Best glide is 110 light and 120 heavier and I don't know the glide ratio. It's so clean it probably glides GREAT."

I'm glad he got the wakeup call from this thread is all i'm sayin

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jul 2016, 05:15

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Have you actually flown one?

I rather stall my ivp than a non recoverable cheap plastic cirri

Have you ever stalled a Cirrus? :scratch:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jul 2016, 12:30

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When the PC12 stalls, it goes over quickly

[youtube]http://youtu.be/VNRK2aUmWWI[/youtube]

Am I stupid? Or did I just watch that video - and think - even if a PC12 stalls - it is very recoverable? I mean it would scare the bejesus out of everyone.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Jul 2016, 13:07

Welcome to the Lancair world..

I mfg all the seals and ducts for the vI-p / iv-p-198 so your in good hands from us if you need spares..

GB