BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 13:34

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Internal baggage is only better if you have the cargo door. Otherwise, I'd want external baggage. Much easier to load external baggage. Lugging baggage thru a cabin is a back breaker.

External versus internal baggage is not really the issue. The issue is access.

Internal baggage access in an Eclipse EA500 is horrible. Comes in the front door and you have to move it over the seats to the rear baggage area.

Internal baggage access to a long body MU2 is excellent. Rear door and the baggage is right there. The PC-12 and PC-24 look to be similar.

External baggage is not necessarily unpressurized. In a jet, I think it is quite common for it to be pressurized.

My short body MU2 has all types. I have internal cabin baggage ares (behind rear seat), external pressurized (left side), external unpressurized (right side).

The simplicity of a single access door for both passengers and baggage is good, IMO.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 13:43

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Fly into Vegas during the Mayweather fight and you really feel it. If it's got a prop after all, you're ghetto dude. I bet chicks think my plane is cooler, at least it has TWO props. :lol:

Warning- thread drift
:coffee:

Y'all crack me up.

I was fortunate to get to fly each of the pictured platforms in my time in the Air Force. Each one of them outstanding at the missions they were designed for. I'll let my fellow military buddies suggest which ride attracted more chick attention. (Hint-it wasn't the one with the whopping FOUR props) :lol:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 13:46

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Your bike would be fine, even if you put it into space. The difference in pressure is only 14.7 PSI. Space shuttle tires are fine, and the wells are unpressurized. The plastic tubes with shaving gel, or skin cream don't fare so well, though.

Aren't high-flying tires all filled with nitrogen, such that expansion doesn't happen at higher altitudes?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 13:51

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Your bike would be fine, even if you put it into space. The difference in pressure is only 14.7 PSI.

Only if your airplane can fly in space.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 13:58

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My understanding is nitrogen is used because it's less affected by temperature, pressure affects would be the same as air.

-Mark

That's correct. Mexicana lost a B727 by a mistake from maintenance using air instead of Nitrogen in a main tire.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexicana_Flight_940

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 15:31

In my opinion, there is no comparison to the loading aspects of the Pilatus.

Loading 9 golfers' worth of stuff through the narrow door of the King Airs isn't that much fun. Then swimming past said 9 golfers up to the front on a 100°F day is less fun still.

Bags into the aft interior of the Citations is no better, but entering just aft of the cockpit is an improvement.

With the Pilatus, I have literally emptied the contents of an F150 through the cargo door, shut it, then breeze in through "my" door. No fuss, no muss.

I really think that the cargo door on the PC-24 will be a sales magnet.

Once spoiled by this setup, I scratch my head over others and wonder "what were they thinking". :scratch:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 16:43

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Your bike would be fine, even if you put it into space. The difference in pressure is only 14.7 PSI. Space shuttle tires are fine, and the wells are unpressurized. The plastic tubes with shaving gel, or skin cream don't fare so well, though.

Unfortunately, I did some field testing of this in my P-baron where I only ascended to FL180. Forgot to empty the tires one trip. Both inner tubes quickly burst when I tried to ride on them. No problemo, I had spare inner tubes. Well, those didn't last long either since the tires had split. Didn't look too cool jogging along side my bike until I could get back to the rental condo and tires replaced. Of course, it was a holiday weekend in a resort area. Bike store was closed until Tuesday after the long weekend.
I prefer biking to jogging.

'Course, I was taken it easy, not lettin the sound of the wheels drive me crazy but the girl my lord in the flat bed Ford never came along to take a look at me

(These are the 110psi skinny tires for a road bike). Temp may have affected them too.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 17:03

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Unfortunately, I did some field testing of this in my P-baron where I only ascended to FL180. Forgot to empty the tires one trip. Both inner tubes quickly burst when I tried to ride on them. No problemo, I had spare inner tubes. Well, those didn't last long either since the tires had split. Didn't look too cool jogging along side my bike until I could get back to the rental condo and tires replaced. Of course, it was a holiday weekend in a resort area. Bike store was closed until Tuesday after the long weekend.
I prefer biking to jogging.

'Course, I was taken it easy, not lettin the sound of the wheels drive me crazy but the girl my lord in the flat bed Ford never came along to take a look at me

(These are the 110psi skinny tires for a road bike). Temp may have affected them too.

Wow. That defies everything I thought I knew about physics!

You shouldn't even have gotten half the rise, as the ambient air was around 7 PSI, or 7 PSI loss in ambient.

I guess I'd want to know what would happen if you just inflated the tires to 117 PSI, at sea level. This is discounting the fact you were in a P Baron, with a few pounds of pressure!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 17:24

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I guess I'd want to know what would happen if you just inflated the tires to 117 PSI, at sea level. This is discounting the fact you were in a P Baron, with a few pounds of pressure!

You buy tires; I'm willing to give it a go :lol:

As a side note, the Baron never lived up to it's name; couldn't really P in it.

Best,

Dave

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 20:02

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Unfortunately, I did some field testing of this in my P-baron where I only ascended to FL180. Forgot to empty the tires one trip. Both inner tubes quickly burst when I tried to ride on them. No problemo, I had spare inner tubes. Well, those didn't last long either since the tires had split.

How long had it been since you'd used that bike prior to this?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 20:23

A day or two.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 20:47

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A day or two.

Ah. There goes that theory - I've been known to hop on a bike and discover flat tires. But it's usually after it has sat around for a long time and I've let the rubber dry out and crack. Sounds like you are smarter than me. :peace:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 21:05

Ok, riding along with the current thread drift.................
I think I might trade in my current road bike for the one below because we all know twins are safer. Only problem is I will have to get a PC12 so I can transport it

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 May 2015, 21:09

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Ok, riding along with the current thread drift.................
I think I might trade in my current road bike for the one below because we all know twins are safer. Only problem is I will have to get a PC12 so I can transport it

Scott, your marriage must be stronger than mine. My wife and I made it about 4 blocks before we both knew it wasn't going to work out well.