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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50  Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 22:23 |
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Username Protected wrote:
Doesn't appear that it does.
It's all good Sean  I'm sure the question is an exercise run by many getting into that class of business .....
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 22:47 |
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Username Protected wrote: What is this thread now anyways? It has creeped and morphed way beyond is the cirrus viable. Chute vs no chute, single vs twin, is night IFR single safe, pro vs owner flown safety, best twin, TBM vs Pilatus, how much for insurance... All those factors apply to the SF50 and its potential success and should be discussed. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 00:33 |
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Username Protected wrote: Its time for this thread to die Michael, where you been. We're going to be talking up the eclipse next. Never had a fatality. That's impressive.
None?!? Not a bad record for VLJs... 
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 00:47 |
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Username Protected wrote:
Michael, where you been. We're going to be talking up the eclipse next. Never had a fatality. That's impressive.
None?!? Not a bad record for VLJs...
That's what I thought. Sheez, saw that and started to look at the Eclipse. That's impressive in my humble opinion.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 01:49 |
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Username Protected wrote: That's what I thought. Sheez, saw that and started to look at the Eclipse. That's impressive in my humble opinion. Made even more impressive considering a good number of Eclipse pilots are piston transitions. The thing that washed out Eclipse pilots was not being a twin or FL410, it was basic instrument skills and airmanship at 300 knots. The SF50 will be no different. The point is that any pilot that can handle a 300 knot airplane can handle two jet engines. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 06:15 |
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Username Protected wrote:
I was just curious as to the cost of that level of insurance. That number does not include hull does it?
That's all in Erwin  ...hull and liability...
Impressive!
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 15:57 |
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I'm not understanding why the speed really matters. It's not as if things are happening so fast at 300KTAS that you're not still sitting around looking at gauges most of the time waiting for the next instruction, and if you did get overwhelmed by the speed, couldn't you just throttle back?
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 16:40 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'm not understanding why the speed really matters. It's not as if things are happening so fast at 300KTAS that you're not still sitting around looking at gauges most of the time waiting for the next instruction, and if you did get overwhelmed by the speed, couldn't you just throttle back? Agreed. It's no big deal.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 18:10 |
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Agree. The speed in cruise really only makes a difference as to how long you sit there bored. It's an ego thing to say you have to be a great pilot on top of your game to handle 300 knots. BS.
It all comes down workload on arrival and departure.
An autopilot and a second pilot make it a breeze.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 20:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: http://www.beechtalk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=100686&view=unread#unread
there's a poll - currently
67 percent predicting success
31 percent predicting certified but a failure
and one guy who thinks it won't get certified. Thanks guys! My vote is in.
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