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Post subject: Re: We're replacing the Bo with an SR22 - Bring on the Jokes Posted: 22 Mar 2013, 05:11 |
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Joined: 04/09/09 Posts: 1308 Post Likes: +96 Location: Raleigh, NC KRDU
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Username Protected wrote: Spot on Neal. Honestly the newest Beechcraft with a 550 and nice avionics was about 20 years old, not anywhere near glass capable and 3000-4000 hours flown (at my budget!) This is silly but I cannot believe the F33 was made with the center column post-84. Small detail but it really pisses me off  The center column is one of the best things about the 33 Ale. It frees up the right side, adjustable height and lower panel height. I think you could find a very nice 33 for 199K, why do you need more than a 530W or a GTN and a 796 or an iPad? Congratulations are in order though, enjoy your new plane, it is a nice looking Cirrus!
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Post subject: Re: We're replacing the Bo with an SR22 - Bring on the Jokes Posted: 22 Mar 2013, 06:27 |
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Joined: 04/06/08 Posts: 2718 Post Likes: +100 Location: Palm Beach, Florida F45
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Hot business idea.....Almost every insurance company uses a marketing symbol. Gieco has the gecko, Travelers has the umbrella, Alejandro could use the parachute!  Try somethin' like.... "Are your aviation insurance rates headed sky high? Pull the chute and call 805-727-4222"!
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Post subject: Re: We're replacing the Bo with an SR22 - Bring on the Jokes Posted: 22 Mar 2013, 07:07 |
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Joined: 03/23/11 Posts: 14662 Post Likes: +6811 Location: Frederick, MD
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Well....I guess we can let this one pass if it's a "business" decision. Sounds like you did the right thing. Anyone who adds FIKI, Turbo, O2, paint, interior, glass, and lets not forget the fav "Chute" to a Beech could well exceed the "purchase price" of a couple hundred hour SR-22T. This is the most economical way to upgrade a panel, autopilot, or anything else aviation.....How else would I arrive at my current V35A? Don't kid yourself.....the operating costs may not be cheaper though...... Username Protected wrote: Spot on Neal. Honestly the newest Beechcraft with a 550 and nice avionics was about 20 years old, not anywhere near glass capable and 3000-4000 hours flown (at my budget!) This is silly but I cannot believe the F33 was made with the center column post-84. Small detail but it really pisses me off 
_________________ Views represented here are my own.....and do not in anyway reflect my employer's position.
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Post subject: Re: We're replacing the Bo with an SR22 - Bring on the Jokes Posted: 22 Mar 2013, 07:32 |
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Joined: 02/09/08 Posts: 2653 Post Likes: +647 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Username Protected wrote: Hot business idea.....Almost every insurance company uses a marketing symbol. Gieco has the gecko, Travelers has the umbrella, Alejandro could use the parachute!  Try somethin' like.... "Are your aviation insurance rates headed sky high? Pull the chute and call 805-727-4222"! 
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Post subject: Re: We're replacing the Bo with an SR22 - Bring on the Jokes Posted: 22 Mar 2013, 07:34 |
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Joined: 03/23/11 Posts: 14662 Post Likes: +6811 Location: Frederick, MD
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or......."When ah chute happens, call 805-727-4222" Username Protected wrote: Hot business idea.....Almost every insurance company uses a marketing symbol. Gieco has the gecko, Travelers has the umbrella, Alejandro could use the parachute!  Try somethin' like.... "Are your aviation insurance rates headed sky high? Pull the chute and call 805-727-4222"! 
_________________ Views represented here are my own.....and do not in anyway reflect my employer's position.
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Post subject: Re: We're replacing the Bo with an SR22 - Bring on the Jokes Posted: 22 Mar 2013, 07:47 |
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Joined: 11/25/11 Posts: 9015 Post Likes: +17225 Location: KGNF, Grenada, MS
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Comment on Cirrus operating costs.
I do not and have not owned a Cirrus. I have flown Cirrus some and am not offended by the airplane in the least. Had I been in the same market as Ale, I would have likely made the same decision.
When the Cirrus came out, they had "a few" different systems; the electrical being the biggest difference probably as it did away with the horribly unreliable vacuum system. Beyond that, they are made of of parts produced by 3rd party manufacturers, not only like, but identical, in most cases, to a Bonanza. Yes, they are composite, kind of like most airline and military aircraft being produced today.
The new owners bought into the idea that there was something "unique" about a Cirrus and for the most part took their airplanes to shops who specialized in their maintenance. "Specialization" dictates a more narrow market of availability and competition and the results were predictable. Those shops took advantage of the "grapes" as they say in the automobile world and peeled them. The exact same way that BMW and M-B dealers peal their customer with $200 oil changes.
I have two friends that have a Cirrus and they bought the same pitch, hauling the damn airplane to Georgia for unneeded $12.000 annuals. I would ask "why" but only gently because their disdain at my questioning was quick to surface. For a while, they hated the Cirrus, it was a maintenance hog. Really? They couldn't point out any real mechanical flaws to me, just the exaggeration of every maintenance issue by the specialty Cirrus shops they were patronizing which, of course, came with outrageous maintenance bills.
Then, about two years ago, they finally went back to our "local" shop. Amazingly, all the maintenance issues became "ordinary" with ordinary maintenance bills and now, they love the Cirrus.
I think that as owners become wiser and non-specialty shops become more attuned to the Cirrus, that we will see operating costs come down. I will hazard the proposition that a properly maintained Cirrus, maintained by a non-specialty but knowledgeable maintenance shop, cost no more to operate, probably less, than a Bonanza with similar systems.
As Ale points out, he would have had to pay at least 50% more for a Bonanza of similar capability. Had he done so, he would have made a very, very poor buying decision.
But then I fly a Mooney, a Cessna, and a Piper and have no brand loyalty. What the hell do I know?
Congrats on your purchase.
Jgreen
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Post subject: Re: We're replacing the Bo with an SR22 - Bring on the Jokes Posted: 22 Mar 2013, 08:45 |
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Very nice specs Ale. When can we get back to spending our hard earned premium money and upgrade those GNS-430 to new IFD-440s? Very excited for you! 
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Post subject: Re: We're replacing the Bo with an SR22 - Bring on the Jokes Posted: 22 Mar 2013, 09:12 |
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Joined: 11/02/10 Posts: 3483 Post Likes: +212 Company: T303, T210, Citabria Location: Houston, TX
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Did you get the retractable? Attachment: Cirrus gear up.png
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Post subject: Re: We're replacing the Bo with an SR22 - Bring on the Jokes Posted: 22 Mar 2013, 09:16 |
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Joined: 04/26/11 Posts: 617 Post Likes: +366 Location: SW Indiana
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Nice plane.
Flew one for several years. If I could afford the newer one with the higher useful load, it would have definately been in the mix with the A36.
Darn kids just keep eating.
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