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Post subject: Re: L39 Posted: 23 Feb 2010, 22:55 |
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Joined: 01/31/10 Posts: 13514 Post Likes: +7609 Company: 320 Fam
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Username Protected wrote:  Makes my profound admiration and respect for our WWII guys that much deeper  They did it for 8 hours.... And the bomber guys had the windows open. If your heated suit failed you simply froze for 8 hours... I have done two 2.5 hour legs in the Mustang and I had trouble standing up when I got out after the second leg. I can't imagine..... Go to an airshow, museum, or better yet, buy a ride on a touring B-17, B-24, B-25, or P-51, and experience first hand what it must have been like. The cockpit of a P-51 on the ground can reach into the mid 100's, all dressed up in high altitude gear, they would get all sweaty on Take-off and climb, and then it would start to freeze as they got higher. O2 masks would wear their faces raw and then the sweat and blood would freeze the masks to their face... Take some kids. They need to know. And yet look how many people are willing to give up the freedoms these guys paid for with blood so they can FEEL safe...
My grandfather was a Togalier in a B-17 during WWII (post Mustang years). I purchased a ride for him, my father, and myself in a B-17 and it was an outstanding experience (first time he had seen one since the war) - especially hearing the first hand accounts of "when this was blown off" or "when we had to stand on this six inch wide walkway and kick the stuck bombs out with the bay open." I have also ridden in the 25 and 24 and would recommend that everyone go when they have the chance. These birds aren't going to be around forever (unfortunately). I know it's off topic, but I just wanted to say I really appreciate those who keep these birds going. This country and its citizens could learn alot from its not-so-distant past.
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Post subject: Re: L39 Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 02:25 |
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Joined: 01/07/10 Posts: 44 Company: global star aerospace Location: USA
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Username Protected wrote: Wow Rick, You really like your Vampire. How many are still flying in the US and what about parts if you even need them? I think for me one of the attractions to the L39 is the availability of parts and a world class maintenance facilities on the east and west coast.
You have a very nice aircraft. Thanks Douglas, Yes i do the vamp is a kick ! And its performance will fly circles around other classic warbirds. Still flying in the USA ? not many not like the l-29 and l39 that flood the market less than 7 kinda rare. More of them flying in Europe and Down Under. I do my own maintenance and have a couple of assistants if needed kinda rare. Its a airplane i actually enjoy servicing, and I have accumulated a lot of parts the rotatable type wheels and breaks, filters,and 2 spare engines, Vamps were used in alot of countries so i keep track of cache of parts all over the world and tie it in with a trip,,,,but its so maint. free. There built heck for stout to start with. LOA has been gone for some time now,replaced with Experimental Type Rating ETR. Put all the places you want to fly and operate to safely on the program letter on file. Is there a limit of how many airfields you can have on your list ? NO If you need to go to a airfield which wasnt on your orig. program letter you USED to fax or e-mail the new location prior to flight. NOW not required.....at least not at this time. NOT able to fly IFR ???? Why ??? what reg is that ???? Your ETR if you choose may be a ETR IFR if successful. And if the aircraft is so equipped and current,,, and NO you don't need a G1000,,, giggle.....I get enough of that with my non work job. Unfortunately there have been several high profile accidents in the last several years and unfortunately majority of which were pilot error, flying classic jets isn't for everyone. I can go on and on about this subject matter,,, pardon me. And if one feels the need to check in with there CPA prior to purchase and operate, then one probably cant afford to operate safely. And if one does check in with there CPA and they don't agree with your FUN FACTOR fire them like Cliff Robertson did when his CPA said his Spitfire would never be worth anything! YEA RIGHT ! And most are very surprised to see how much luggage space there is on some of these classic jets. Between the nose compartment , lower used to be gun plat form and aft ammo bays, there very cavernous on my 2 seat side by side vampire. I wish you luck in your pursuit of a classic jet they really are fun. Rick...
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Post subject: Re: L39 Posted: 29 Mar 2010, 18:56 |
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Joined: 03/06/10 Posts: 35 Post Likes: +6 Location: Area 51, No really!
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I know the rules have recently changed on experimental/warbird aircraft. A letter of authorization used to be the required document but it has been changed. I am not completely familiar with today's requirements.
I was surprised by the performance numbers quoted. 4500ft/min climb is pretty anemic for a light jet, especially one that does not have a standard passenger cabin. The 20 series Lear had a VSI that pegged at 10,000fpm so I don't know the actual rate of climb but you could keep it pegged in a lightly loaded plane until about 15,000ft.[/quote]
I think you need an LOA for a L39. This is a nice airplane that's underpowered by a 1000 pound of thrust. It spools up relatively slow and you can get behind it rather easily. If it's either hot, high, or humid, you'll need a boat load of runway to operate safely.
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Post subject: Re: L39 Posted: 29 Mar 2010, 19:04 |
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Username Protected wrote: I think you need an LOA for a L39. This is a nice airplane that's underpowered by a 1000 pound of thrust. It spools up relatively slow and you can get behind it rather easily. If it's either hot, high, or humid, you'll need a boat load of runway to operate safely. Wow, well that's the first negative thing with impact I hear about the plane. Interesting.
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Post subject: Re: L39 Posted: 29 Mar 2010, 23:35 |
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Joined: 03/06/10 Posts: 35 Post Likes: +6 Location: Area 51, No really!
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Username Protected wrote: I think you need an LOA for a L39. This is a nice airplane that's underpowered by a 1000 pound of thrust. It spools up relatively slow and you can get behind it rather easily. If it's either hot, high, or humid, you'll need a boat load of runway to operate safely. Wow, well that's the first negative thing with impact I hear about the plane. Interesting.
Oh, it ain't cheap to operate either
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