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I heard Jason’s getting the Honda Jet (and a free start cart)





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I heard Jason’s getting the Honda Jet (and a free start cart)





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Can you at least let us in on the finalists?

Finalists would be:

New PC12NG
Used CJ3+
Used Phenom 300


Easy, New PC12NG the others can't even come close IMHO This from me reading all your posts

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Selling your barely 10 year old PC12

You can justify and rationalize all you want Jason.....not gonna get there no way no how
on PC12 vs anything else for you.

I will let you borrow my word:

CauseIcan

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737s do 200nm trips too.

Do you own a 737?

Let me check and I'll get back with you.

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Interesting.
Not in Jason’s league, never will be.
But add however many digits to the acquisition and operating cost and it seems that inevitably it comes down to the same old question.
What is the mission and what is the 90% mission.
Unicorns don’t exist just yet.
250 miles, 1200 miles, different beasts.
Fun to watch.
New Pilates Jason, you know you want one. You get to pick your own color scheme this time!

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PC-24 is my dream airplane. Took a tour a couple of months ago when I was up in Boise - WOW!!! Nothing else comes close. Hate to admit it, but the CJ2 lost some luster in my eyes after that.

Now I have to figure out how to get one. Hmmm, they aren't available and I can't afford one - so no quick answers for me. But my favorite Einstein quote describes my approach to these kind of challenges "I'm not that smart, I'm just willing to stay on a problem longer".

I still miss the KA on short hops. I liked the KA but JC you LOVE the PC-12. The problem is that you are smart and can do good math. None of the planes you suggested pencil out better than keeping what you've got so now you've got a dilemma - emotions vs math.... I know how this goes for me but I've never been good at math.

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If all airplane purchases were made based on a “practical” and “mathematical” calculation what would GA look like.


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Jason,

You’ve worked hard you are at a place where you can get what you want. So get what’s going to make YOU happy. You have been wanting a jet for a long time so go for it.

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What hurts is when they tell you the recapture is ordinary income.... :bang:

Yup. I’ll be dealing with that on the one I have too


1031...

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If all airplane purchases were made based on a “practical” and “mathematical” calculation what would GA look like.

Exactly. As Jet Aviva says, “Life is short, Fly a jet.”

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I am a pro pilot. Nothing to it. I don’t feel any different getting paid to fly.

But yes agreed


The line in the sand is:

Have you flown when you really didn't want to fly/feel like flying or even not feel 100% ?

Have you flown someplace you didn't want to go?

Have you flown in weather you didn't want to fly in?

Have you flown equipment you really don't like (poorly equipped, quirky features, intermittent un-diagnosed failures?

If the answer to all these is no, you have not experienced the professional side of aviation.

The professional HAS to fly. The amateur can call the whole thing off if he/she feels like it.

Getting paid alone doesn't get you over the line.

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Jason, close your eyes and picture the hotties walking up to your P300... feels good right? Now forget it and do what makes sense, get the new PC12. :peace:


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1031...

Art


Art,

The new tax plan did away with 1031's for aircraft (but did retain them for real estate). It isn't the end of the world...the easiest way to address the issue to sell the current plane and buy the replacement plane in the same tax year (and the order in which you do it doesn't matter nor do you need a Qualified Intermediary and all of the hassle that comes with the 1031 process, etc).

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