Seems that way, but it really isn't.

A P210R might cost $150K more than, say, a 340. Say you fly 150 hours, the 340 costs $100 more per hour in fuel, and $100 more per hour in maintenance, so that $30K more per year. So the $150K surplus is used up in 5 years.

And then you sell. The P210R guy has higher hull value so he gets most of his money back, the 340 guy doesn't.

Operating cost is the prime determinant of total ownership cost.

Mike C.

Vince but don't forget that extra engine and prop to maintain. That's $70amu right there!

Plus the whole "time is money" factor. You may not have to pay someones labor rate and parts markup but your time is worth something!

$70amu sounds like a gold plated overhaul, not maintenance. I could fly my current plane the rest of my life and not have to overhaul the engine. As for my time, I consider working on my plane one of my hobbies, so instead of paying for entertainment, I get the pleasure of working on my plane. I'm money ahead. I'm retiring in 10 months and 15 days (but who's counting) and my wife has already warned me that I would have to spend more time at the airport.

Vince

I have flown a P210R quite a bit in the last year or so. Compared to my P210N it is certainly a bit faster. The main advantage to the P210R is retaining FIKI with 115 gallons or so without resorting to a baggage tank.

The biggest issue I found with the P210R is parts. There are many parts specific to the P210R and with so few produced, this makes availability of spares problematic.

A Vitatoe Turbo-Normalized P210N conversion is faster and doesn't the spare parts issues. It's an expensive conversion ($95K ?) so you are near P210R territory in price.

-Pascal

Not to hate on the P210's ... but the Malibu is just a much better pressurized bird for the purchase budget specified. 5.5 PSI pressurization compared to 3.5ish. Wing optimized for FL operations, 140 gallon fuel...

Yes, but the conversion includes an engine overhaul, so if you time it right, it's about half of that.

Are you counting those costs as free?

If so, what are you doing with a 177 when you should have some complex twin, since maintenance is basically free?

Mike C.

Walk up to a 210 or Mirage with your passengers and see which one they like, especially if they sit in the back seats. If your going to spend that kind of money get an air stair or at least barn doors on a 58

Are you counting those costs as free?

If so, what are you doing with a 177 when you should have some complex twin, since maintenance is basically free?

Mike C.

Then, if you're over 6'3" or so, sit in both.

I just flat don't fit in the Malibu.... I know some guys my size do, but for whatever reason (long torso or something) it's just a poor fit for my frame.

Robert

Here ya go...

Yup, that's another way to look at it....
Do you pull a 58P out for a pancake run on Saturday morning?????

Of course I could do that and then put 100 AMU in a panel, 30 AMU to paint it and have quite the plane....

I just want to the hear the radio calls with that one, "Red Baron"

Good one! I already have the white silk scarf I use on my motorcycle......

Good one! I already have the white silk scarf I use on my motorcycle......