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Post subject: Re: Whuda thunk it - I bought a Piper (Navajo Panther) Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 10:15 |
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Joined: 09/04/09 Posts: 6203 Post Likes: +2739 Location: Doylestown, PA (KDYL)
Aircraft: 1979 Baron 58P
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Username Protected wrote: The interior plastics around the windows and overhead panel scream Piper. Other than that, this plane is stout.
Some time last year there was an interior shop from somewhere in South America posting pictures that kept me awake for days. They wrapped every plastic part in leather IIRC, window surrounds, overhead panel, It looked stunning. The extra weight should not be an issue in that plane. If you plan to keep this puppy for a while........ I had my plastics covered in a thin(lightweight) material, similar to automotive headliner fabric. It looked great, was approved, and held up well.
_________________ Rick Witt Doylestown, PA & Destin, FL
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Post subject: Re: Whuda thunk it - I bought a Piper (Navajo Panther) Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 11:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: I had my plastics covered in a thin(lightweight) material, similar to automotive headliner fabric. It looked great, was approved, and held up well. Rick who? Where?
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Post subject: Re: Whuda thunk it - I bought a Piper (Navajo Panther) Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 12:34 |
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Joined: 06/28/09 Posts: 14423 Post Likes: +9555 Location: Walnut Creek, CA (KCCR)
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Username Protected wrote: I was actually surprised by all the positive feedback I have received on the Navajo. Several guys here, and several other good sources, have sung her praises. Even the mechanics are loving how accessible the systems are and the layout for ease of maintenance.
Its interesting that there are typically more Navajos flying than Barons of flightaware, yet I hardly ever see them owned personally (like never). It looks like the 135 guys snapped them all up.
I saw a few yesterday up at Salmon Idaho. They looked pretty rough, real beaters but flying. I'm guessing short haul cargo. Looks to be a very stout airframe that will take a beating. Probably more space than an average family dude needs, but perfect for you and Penman!
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Post subject: Re: Whuda thunk it - I bought a Piper (Navajo Panther) Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 21:25 |
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Joined: 09/04/09 Posts: 6203 Post Likes: +2739 Location: Doylestown, PA (KDYL)
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Username Protected wrote: I had my plastics covered in a thin(lightweight) material, similar to automotive headliner fabric. It looked great, was approved, and held up well. Rick who? Where? It was done by a local auto/aircraft upholstery guy. He often works out of our facility.
_________________ Rick Witt Doylestown, PA & Destin, FL
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Post subject: Re: Whuda thunk it - I bought a Piper (Navajo Panther) Posted: 14 Aug 2015, 01:25 |
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Joined: 01/31/10 Posts: 13626 Post Likes: +7758 Company: 320 Fam
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Initial test flights done.
First impression: power to spare on the runway - puts you in the seat. 160 gallons plus three guys with 110dF OAT gave us 1,700fpm initial at 130kias.
She runs very smoothly LOP, but I have one cylinder that has a baffle issue and is running hotter than I'd like. I'm sure I have a wide Gami spread, but its undetectable in cruise. It was a hot bumpy afternoon, but the plane skipped along like a champ.
Above the bumps, the engines and props are smooth as glass - like riding in a car. Noise level in the cabin was 80dB on my phone. I was able to climb 400fpm LOP at 120 indicated through 13,500' (where I leveled off).
With a large spread, efficiency is diminished. Even so, at 13,500 she gave 188ktas on 15.9/side. I thought that was pretty great for a big bird down low.
The cowl flaps are hugely effective - almost instant reduction in CHTs. They are electric and create significant drag when fully open.
The controls are stiff, but very responsive. The plane can be flown aggressively and stays with you. Easy to fly and land. Short field will be a breeze. Flare and touch down are intuitive (other than an odd combo of stiff controls with high sensitivity - potential to over control is high initially).
More later...
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Post subject: Re: Whuda thunk it - I bought a Piper (Navajo Panther) Posted: 14 Aug 2015, 06:46 |
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Joined: 08/09/08 Posts: 211 Post Likes: +25 Location: KPWA
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I dont recomend it but this airplane can be flown seriouly overgross
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Post subject: Re: Whuda thunk it - I bought a Piper (Navajo Panther) Posted: 14 Aug 2015, 23:31 |
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Joined: 01/31/10 Posts: 13626 Post Likes: +7758 Company: 320 Fam
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Username Protected wrote: What app do you use on your iPhone for sound testing? DB Meter Pro
_________________ Views are my own and don’t represent employers or clients My 58TC https://tinyurl.com/mry9f8f6
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Post subject: Re: Whuda thunk it - I bought a Piper (Navajo Panther) Posted: 15 Aug 2015, 11:27 |
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Joined: 12/09/10 Posts: 3634 Post Likes: +865 Location: KPAN
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Username Protected wrote: At 185ktas that is a total of 7 gallons per hour more than the Baron
Nope don't believe it! That Baron is way more efficient than that. At least that's what I have to tell myself.
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