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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi for first twin Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 01:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yep, full of knobs and nothing was in english to help things out. I counted 14 knobs that are apparently associated with engine control, all white, all round, all smooth. That must have been confusing as heck especially at night. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi for first twin Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 21:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: I almost bought a project Morava when I lived in England many years ago. I love the design of them, think they're absolutely gorgeous. But I'm so glad I didn't buy that project. Would have been way in over my head.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi for first twin Posted: 21 Jan 2015, 22:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yep, full of knobs and nothing was in english to help things out. I counted 14 knobs that are apparently associated with engine control, all white, all round, all smooth. That must have been confusing as heck especially at night. Mike C. Geeze, it was confusing enough in broad daylight! Never flew it at night. My czech is adequate, but not the best. That plane does have heated leading edges for deice. And they claimed to use vodka for the windshield deice.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi for first twin Posted: 22 Jan 2015, 01:07 |
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Username Protected wrote: And they claimed to use vodka for the windshield deice. Apparently, it has some sort of openable small panel in the front windshield which is used, so I'm told, to see forward when the window becomes covered in ice. Maybe you stuck your hand outside to wipe of the ice? It was called a "direct view" window or some such. Bizarre. Here's a pic of it:  Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi for first twin Posted: 22 Jan 2015, 02:02 |
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It's not as stupid as it perhaps sounds. Anyone ever smoke? Then you probably noticed it was easier to light the lighter in a cupped hand into the wind, than shielding it from it. Some might even remember those silly collars/masks people used to use before the goggles when riding motorbikes in the 50's. I'd assume this was the same. As long as there was no outlet, most of the air couldn't enter and had to go around. 
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi for first twin Posted: 22 Jan 2015, 10:35 |
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Username Protected wrote: The baggage compartments are pretty good size but not big enough for ski's or snowboards. They fit between the seats in the cabin well. The unpressurized lower compartment will hold four seats of golf clubs fine or a couple of large duffle bag luggage. The upper pressurized baggage compartment will hold a descent amount of bags also. It still does not have as much room as a long body but very sufficient. I have carried bags, boards and groceries for a week long ski trip for three with no issues. Most of my trips have been with three or four people. I am going to the plane in bit and will try to get some pictures. Thanks much Steve. I'm just trying to get a feel. The Seneca has a great deal of room for bags with a very large nose compartment and aft luggage compartments. We usually fly with the middle seats removed and typically have a lot of stuff in that space as well. Without a nose baggage compartment, I think we'd have a tough time getting everything into the aft compartments in the MU2 but I haven't seen any good photos of them yet. How difficult is it to remove the middle seats in the short body MU2?
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi for first twin Posted: 22 Jan 2015, 10:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: The baggage compartments are pretty good size but not big enough for ski's or snowboards. They fit between the seats in the cabin well. The unpressurized lower compartment will hold four seats of golf clubs fine or a couple of large duffle bag luggage. The upper pressurized baggage compartment will hold a descent amount of bags also. It still does not have as much room as a long body but very sufficient. I have carried bags, boards and groceries for a week long ski trip for three with no issues. Most of my trips have been with three or four people. I am going to the plane in bit and will try to get some pictures. Steve, How long have you owned the Mits? What is the maintenance like between inspections? Best,
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi for first twin Posted: 22 Jan 2015, 10:57 |
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Username Protected wrote: Does anyone have any photos of the baggage compartments in a short body MU2? It appears that there is little room for bags inside the cabin, so I'm curious how much space is available. Is there a nose baggage compartment? There is much more baggage space than one imagines when looking at a short body MU2. On the left side, there is the pressurized baggage compartment.Runs across the entire width of the plane. On the right side and further back is the unpressurized baggage compartment. Since my nose is empty, I've put a few baggage items in the nose on occasion. Baggage is allowed allowed on a big hat shelf in the back, under the rear bench seat, and between pilots and middle row of seats. Officially, baggage load limits are: Pressurized baggage compartment: 220 lbs Good for general baggage, stays heated, doesn't freeze. About 20" wide, 22" high, 48" deep. Unpressurized baggage compartment: 154 lbs Good for low density items, big, will freeze. About 22" wide, 30" high, 36" deep. Cabin baggage compartment (hat shelf): 200 lbs Accessible in flight. About 20" deep, rear seat head rest folds down for access. Skis don't work that well in a short body MU2. Best option is removal of middle right seat and lay along the floor. Leaves you with seating for 5 (or 6 if you can get three across the rear bench). The photo below is a trip with full fuel, 5 people, and that much baggage, and I was 400 lbs below gross. Almost all of this went into the external baggage compartments (some on the hat shelf, one item in the nose). Top of the photo you can see the bottom of the pressurized baggage opening. If you look carefully on the right side of the plane behind the bottom beacon, you can see the unpressurized baggage door open and hanging down. Attachment: mu2-baggage-2.png Mike C.
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