Yesterday was a good example of an answer to this question. I flew two legs up and down the west coast. First leg at FL350, the second at FL380. The radio was constant with airliners asking about rides and changing altitudes. Nothing sounded good, but it wasn't bad at all. In fact, it was a nice day. Just some intermittent light chop, but nothing constant and nothing more than light. Certainly nothing I would contemplate changing altitude for. It seems if they have anything that could spill some coffee, then they have to make a change. Different perspectives for different types.

All I hear on the radio when I'm flying is "how are the rides today"? I feel it's an epidemic. I can't believe how much these commercial guys ask the same question over and over.

If the ride in the jet is so smooth, why they always asking where the smooth air is?

I've got 2000 hours in PC12 now. Never once asked how the rides are. I don't care. It's always pretty smooth to me.

All I hear on the radio when I'm flying is "how are the rides today"? I feel it's an epidemic. I can't believe how much these commercial guys ask the same question over and over.

If the ride in the jet is so smooth, why they always asking where the smooth air is?

I've got 2000 hours in PC12 now. Never once asked how the rides are. I don't care. It's always pretty smooth to me.

As to FL310, in the Citation II I flew, we seldom got above FL33 in summer even on long legs. To get higher, we had to step climb. We were slow higher and took a long time to climb when full. The plane would go higher, but as a practical matter, we didn't usually do that. Light load, cold weather, different story. Citation V was much better and took it to FL430 on one trip.

Yes but only 1 person can talk at a time on the radio. The "how are the rides today?" chatter is dominating the radio. If nothing else I'm tired of listening to it.

This is for another thread.

...for another thread

tooooooooooons of that went wild here

Not to a real pilot. I like training, too.

Doesn't apply to the supposed "millions" who just want A to B that JC was talking about. Thus the SF50 is not opening personal aircraft ownership to those folks due to the need to be a real pilot.

Mike C.

pls let's get serious now & what really matters clown plane?

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Yesterday was a good example of an answer to this question. I flew two legs up and down the west coast. First leg at FL350, the second at FL380. The radio was constant with airliners asking about rides and changing altitudes. Nothing sounded good, but it wasn't bad at all. In fact, it was a nice day. Just some intermittent light chop, but nothing constant and nothing more than light. Certainly nothing I would contemplate changing altitude for. It seems if they have anything that could spill some coffee, then they have to make a change. Different perspectives for different types.

1. Cheap to purchase

Cost of capital, insurance and depreciation absolutely dominate costs for any private owner.

Don't speak for me. I don't agree with this. I like training.

I hate turbulence and am paying to be up there too. You're in an airplane.... get over it.