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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50  Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 07:14 |
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before some showed up used fs https://corporatejetinvestor.com/articl ... guide-002/Quote: At the time of writing, there are no Vision Jet’s available on the pre-owned market – a sign that the plane is popular with current owners. The aircraft fills a specific niche in the industry, and with strong support from Cirrus general aviation customers transitioning into larger aircraft, it looks promising for residual values. hmmm Quote: But being one of the smallest jets in its class has advantages. The Vision Jet requires just 2,036ft/620m to take off, and 1,628ft/496m to land – allowing the aircraft to take advantage of smaller airstrips closer to the passenger’s final destination. lol Quote: This is due to the Vision Jet only having one engine – compared to the two normally found on very light jets – and its light weight. The Vision Jet is also rated for single pilot operations; meaning only one pilot is needed to fly the aircraft. This is common for smaller jets and reduces the operating cost by not needing to hire a first-officer. It would not be surprising for owners of a Vision Jet to pilot the aircraft themselves, the tail looks ..umm yuuge.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QupdLdBbrr4good bet handy for landing..
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 09:10 |
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Username Protected wrote: Has anyone bought an SF50 who was outside of the Cirrus family?
Chip- I have met two SF50 owners who have never owned a Cirrus. Both were twin piston and jet owners. The SF50 replaces the twin piston, and the short haul flights of the jets (they kept the bigger jets for long haul). Tim
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 09:28 |
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Username Protected wrote: What’s not? There is ZERO chance Cirrus will be working on a small twin jet because there are already 5-6 on the market that don't sell very well. IMO, Cirrus is done with designing new airplanes. The SF50 will take over the top spot as "most common aircraft flying" from Pilatus. You could satisfy 100% of the market demand with just Cirrus and Pilatus. Those 4 airplanes have everything covered. SR22, SF50, PC12, PC24
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 09:28 |
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Username Protected wrote: The guy flew it 600 hours and wants to sell.... make some money. 600 hours is a lot in a year ..looks like that one sold already.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 09:30 |
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Username Protected wrote: The guy flew it 600 hours and wants to sell.... make some money. 600 hours is a lot in a year ..looks like that one sold already.
How,? it never got certified. 
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 09:31 |
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http://twinandturbine.com/article/cirrus-vision-jet/Quote: Below the jet’s ruddervator tail is the aircraft’s yaw stability augmentation system that comprises of two small surfaces on the aft end of the strakes. From the runway to 200 feet AGL, the surfaces automatically provide provides a “weak” yaw damp. After 200 feet, the yaw damp kicks in with more force. hmmm.... Quote: The Vision Jet will feel familiar to SR pilots with throttle, sidestick, flaps and switches in similar locations. The Garmin Perspective integrated flight deck offers a plethora of workload-saving and safety features. The panoramic windscreen is among the best in the owner-flown turbine category. plethora ..hmmmm
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 10:06 |
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Quote: The Vision Jet requires just 2,036ft/620m to take off, and 1,628ft/496m to land Those are ground roll distances. Takeoff over 50 ft obstacle is 3192 ft from the Cirrus web site. They don't list a landing distance over 50 ft obstacle. These distances don't include accelerate go or accelerate stop margins, either, since the plane is a single. Nearly all other jets have to list a takeoff distance which includes an engine failure and either stop or go, and over an obstacle. So the numbers will seem better than other jets, but its mostly apples to oranges, due to the different criteria being used. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 10:13 |
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big appeal for getting into short strips tho ..or location options.. yuuge imo Quote: But being one of the smallest jets in its class has advantages. The Vision Jet requires just 2,036ft/620m to take off, and 1,628ft/496m to land – allowing the aircraft to take advantage of smaller airstrips closer to the passenger’s final destination. 1 engine deal tho...
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 10:42 |
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Username Protected wrote: That advertisement says they are three times faster than an SR22T! Makes it about Citation X speed, Mach 0.90+. Awesome! Mike C.
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Doesn’t say how many times or at what angle it will do .90.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 17:43 |
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http://twinandturbine.com/article/cirrus-vision-jet/Quote: “Our customers are people who are early adopters who are leaning forward. The Vision Jet was designed with them in mind.” early adopters? leaning forward? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_adopterQuote: Early adoption does come with pitfalls: early versions of products may be buggy and/or prone to malfunction. Furthermore, more efficient, and sometimes less expensive, versions of the product usually appear a few months after the initial release (Apple iPhone).[2][3] The trend of new technology costing more at release is often referred to as the "early adopter tax".[4]
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 07 Jan 2019, 18:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: http://twinandturbine.com/article/cirrus-vision-jet/ Quote: “Our customers are people who are early adopters who are leaning forward. The Vision Jet was designed with them in mind.” early adopters? leaning forward? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_adopterQuote: Early adoption does come with pitfalls: early versions of products may be buggy and/or prone to malfunction. Furthermore, more efficient, and sometimes less expensive, versions of the product usually appear a few months after the initial release (Apple iPhone).[2][3] The trend of new technology costing more at release is often referred to as the "early adopter tax".[4] You'd already know if the SF50 was going to be a failure.
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