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Light, I would.

Light = 80 gallons and two adults (or about 5,300 lbs)

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 Post subject: Re: Aerostars
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In a 700, Yes. Summer day (not super hot) accelerate-stop at max gross is charted at about 3700 ft. If I had 3400' with 600' clear way I'd be cool with it. Maybe not toward the ditch...

Ann Arbor is about like that, I go in and out of there with comfort.


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At or near sea level, I would.

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Would any of you A* guys operate out of a 3400' paved runway? No obstructions. About a 600' grass overrun on one end, same on the other but with a deep ditch about 50' from the end of the pavement.


Yes. The 600ft overrun gives you an effective 4K runway for emergencies. In an emergency, I care about my person, not the plane.

You need to practice, and get comfortable.
I flew in/out of KGAI all the time at 4K, usually about 500lbs under MTOW.

Check the performance numbers in accelerate/stop distance; and you should be fine. For normal operations, the runway requirements are even shorter.

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My 601P was pretty consistently off in about 2000-2200ft, medium load. But until you hit blue line, it was a slow climber. After that, a great climber. So in a way, if there are obstructions, that would be more of a concern to me than maybe the rwy length. Although the 4000ft I had at my home airport, seemed about right. Maybe if I'm current a 3400ft would be OK if it didn't have obstructions. My Aerostar instructor Don Smith, who has about 18000hrs in the things, flew a 700 out of a 1900ft field a few times. Not something I would like to do.

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Would any of you A* guys operate out of a 3400' paved runway? No obstructions. About a 600' grass overrun on one end, same on the other but with a deep ditch about 50' from the end of the pavement.

Yes,

Before I built my hangar in Red Deer (5,000' runway), I was based at an airport with a 3,000' runway (at 3,000ASL) for about a year. If I need to do a trip at full gross, I would leave solo and pick up my passengers in Red Deer.

Landing in either direction (with 6-puck brakes) would not be an issue. Taking off towards the ditch would make me pause and consider.

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Just received an email from a vendor. He has a brand new, never installed 2016 Hartzel HC-C3YR-2UF/FJC8468DB-14 counter rotating prop for an Aerostar 700 that the customer cancelled on. List price over $21,000. For sale $6500 plus shipping.


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Just received an email from a vendor. He has a brand new, never installed 2016 Hartzel HC-C3YR-2UF/FJC8468DB-14 counter rotating prop for an Aerostar 700 that the customer cancelled on. List price over $21,000. For sale $6500 plus shipping.

Problem is, you also have to buy an engine to go along with the prop, or already have one, the correct one.
Such a deal. :thumbup:


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Braden Flying Service was an Aerostar dealer in Nazareth Pa..N43...a 1956 foot strip with good approaches


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I regularly fly in to Marks, MS: 3300/75 paved. I am always light with one passenger at most. It is no issue. Taking off to the north, there is a swamp with trees about 800' from the end of the runway. I never take off to the north. A few years ago, I was right seat in a P Baron that was full of fuel. It was about 95 degrees. We dusted the cotton plants 100' off the end.

Departing there one "HOT" day last summer in the A*, I had a turbo over boost. I was literally at "rotation" speed. "Some" people object to using the term rotate for a piston. ROTATE! ROTATE! ROTATE!
I was able to shut down with room to spare. Had I been at gross, I would have ended up in the cotton field. Period!

There are two things no "pilot skill" can overcome or change; the aircraft's acceleration on takeoff or stall speed. Anytime, ANYTIME, you take off in a twin, if you have an engine failure at "ROTATION" speed, and the runway is less than balanced field length for the aircraft's weight and conditions, you have a problem.

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Just received an email from a vendor. He has a brand new, never installed 2016 Hartzel HC-C3YR-2UF/FJC8468DB-14 counter rotating prop for an Aerostar 700 that the customer cancelled on. List price over $21,000. For sale $6500 plus shipping.

Problem is, you also have to buy an engine to go along with the prop, or already have one, the correct one.
Such a deal. :thumbup:



As I recall you need to buy the correct part for anything you put on your airplane. If you have a 700 it is " such a deal".

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If you have a 700 with counter rotating engines was my point, unless I'm missing something here. There's not a lot of counter rotating 700s out there and it will cost you dearly to become one excluding the prop.


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Would any of you A* guys operate out of a 3400' paved runway? No obstructions. About a 600' grass overrun on one end, same on the other but with a deep ditch about 50' from the end of the pavement.


Depends on the DA. Below 1,000 a 601P would be fine even at full gross, but would probably use the overrun with an engine failure at VR.

I am always reminded that lots of non Aerostar aircraft actually only have one engine and limited options for a VR failure. We all learned in one of those.

Trivia: Was there a single engine Aerostar?

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Would any of you A* guys operate out of a 3400' paved runway? No obstructions. About a 600' grass overrun on one end, same on the other but with a deep ditch about 50' from the end of the pavement.


Depends on the DA. Below 1,000 a 601P would be fine even at full gross, but would probably use the overrun with an engine failure at VR.

I am always reminded that lots of non Aerostar aircraft actually only have one engine and limited options for a VR failure. We all learned in one of those.

Trivia: Was there a single engine Aerostar?

Bob Keeping


There have been several Bob. Everytime there was an engine failure. :lol: :lol:
Sorry, I couldn't resist. :tape:

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