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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is so far out in front.......
PostPosted: 22 May 2013, 10:32 
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What realistic tas did you see in the g5?
I think I'm going have to test drive one. Last time I did was 2005.


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What realistic tas did you see in the g5?
I think I'm going have to test drive one. Last time I did was 2005.

We were yanking and banking some and never got above 7500, but when straight and level I was seeing some 180-185KTS TAS at 17.4 gph.

Tol'able.

Last time I flew one was '06, I think. Night and day, night and day.

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Cirrus sales has got there sh!t together, emailed a rep got a response in 90 seconds! Let's see how long Beechcraft takes.


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So...since this is a Cirrus thread...consider two of the other threads:

"My Crash could have been worse..." The Cirrus doesn't have a yoke to crush your chest in a crash. Oh, and there are airbag shoulder harnesses in the front, so there wouldn't be any hair on the sun visor either.

"Almost took out a deer..." if it was at night, the EVS (IR Camera) would make that durn deer visible at a fair distance.

Just sayin'

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While the Cirrus love fest has been interesting I want to caution on a few thing. My 2006 NA is LOUD. Turbos are quiter and I mean that in general not just Cirrus so a TN Bonanza will be quiter than it was before the conversion. The SR22T is quiter than the SR22TN due to a reduction in max RPM.

The G2 was a big step up in fit and finish and the G3 is another big step. Be careful about generalizing a G5 experience to older versions. In particular the G1's have a lot more Velcro and double sided tape. G1 and G2 have wheel fairings that don't look as nice as G3 onward.


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While the Cirrus love fest has been interesting I want to caution on a few thing. My 2006 NA is LOUD. Turbos are quiter and I mean that in general not just Cirrus so a TN Bonanza will be quiter than it was before the conversion. The SR22T is quiter than the SR22TN due to a reduction in max RPM.

The G2 was a big step up in fit and finish and the G3 is another big step. Be careful about generalizing a G5 experience to older versions. In particular the G1's have a lot more Velcro and double sided tape. G1 and G2 have wheel fairings that don't look as nice as G3 onward.

In a way, that's exactly what this thread is about. Look how far Cirrus has come. Always advancing.


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As we climbed Jeff Sandusky the Cirrus Regional Sales Director set up the AP and was explaining stuff while we climbed. Drinking through a fire hose. We climbed 125 KIAS at a little over 1,000 FPM to 14,500 just because we could.


Jeff is a good egg. I do some aircraft expos with him throughout the year. I believe he has been one of the top Cirrus salesmen the last 4-5 years. If memory serves me correctly he offices out of PWA at Atlantic?

Yes he does. He's a good guy.

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Yeah but.....~80% of the noise comes from the prop....not the engine muffler-turbo. :whiteflag: :hammer:
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While the Cirrus love fest has been interesting I want to caution on a few thing. My 2006 NA is LOUD. Turbos are quiter and I mean that in general not just Cirrus so a TN Bonanza will be quiter than it was before the conversion. The SR22T is quiter than the SR22TN due to a reduction in max RPM.

The G2 was a big step up in fit and finish and the G3 is another big step. Be careful about generalizing a G5 experience to older versions. In particular the G1's have a lot more Velcro and double sided tape. G1 and G2 have wheel fairings that don't look as nice as G3 onward.

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One thing i keep seeing people throw around is this 800k+ price tag for this G5 cirrus. If you want the custom interior, custom exterior, with your initials, and company logo. If you want the fiki, turbo added, with nothing left on the shelf when they build it then yes it will cost that much. If you want it comparable in options offered to a G36, meaning you get 3 colors to choose from on the inside and a few more to choose on the outside, Garmin panel, no turbo, no fiki, but they would both have air-conditioning, then you are looking at 610,000 for the cirrus. We didnt really need a turbo for our mission, we operate out of new orleans and fly to texas mostly. Id rather have that 60+ pounds for people and fuel. I priced them out a couple months ago for the company i work for.

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.....maybe so but the COPA forum is a FAR, FAR cry from the BeechTalk forum.


No matter what airplane I'm flying in a year or ten years from now, I don't think I will ever leave this forum. There is no other I've found which even comes close to the content, experience, usefulness and value of BT.

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.....maybe so but the COPA forum is a FAR, FAR cry from the BeechTalk forum.


No matter what airplane I'm flying in a year or ten years from now, I don't think I will ever leave this forum. There is no other I've found which even comes close to the content, experience, usefulness and value of BT.

+1. Same with the POPA forum. It's crap. Learned more about my plane here than anywhere.


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bet they don't wear flip-flops over there.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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+1. Same with the POPA forum. It's crap. Learned more about my plane here than anywhere.

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If I were the CEO of Cirrus, I'd print this thread out in its entirety. I'd call a meeting of my design/marketing staff. Place a copy of this thread with a $1000 bonus check attached in front of each person and then tell them to keep up the good work.

It would be a short meeting.

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If I were the CEO of Cirrus, I'd print this thread out in its entirety. I'd call a meeting of my design/marketing staff. Place a copy of this thread with a $1000 bonus check attached in front of each person and then tell them to keep up the good work.

It would be a short meeting.


Would he have to call China for permission :duck:

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Would he have to call China for permission :duck:


Beech could use some of that Chinese capital for development, though it also requires vision, which is not apparent at Beechcraft.

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