BeechTalk - BT - The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Sep 2020, 12:44

Username Protected wrote:

LOL naaaah more like this..

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Exactly where the P.1HH name came from... HH = Hammer Head :eek:

OK, not the best example of success... :scratch:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Sep 2020, 12:51

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Sinus wave, saw-tooth noise profile. Actually less loud than a King Air, but more obnoxious, like a table saw. Hence banned at some airports (KSMO, for instance).

I bet the Beech Starship 2000 had a similar noise signature.
Never been able to hear one from real, and youtube does not help a lot, but should have been similar.

New exausts and scimitar propeller (also spinning at 1800 RPM instead of 2000) helped a lot to make it a bit less obnoxious.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Sep 2020, 14:13

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Congratulations Tony!!!

I’m sure you and your wife both will love it. How long do you expect the initial training to take? Can’t wait to hear all about it.

I am combining in aircraft instruction, Flight Safety and a total of 50 hours dual which I think I'll have knocked out by end of November.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Sep 2020, 14:50

Username Protected wrote:

Sinus wave, saw-tooth noise profile. Actually less loud than a King Air, but more obnoxious, like a table saw. Hence banned at some airports (KSMO, for instance).

I bet the Beech Starship 2000 had a similar noise signature.
Never been able to hear one from real, and youtube does not help a lot, but should have been similar.

New exausts and scimitar propeller (also spinning at 1800 RPM instead of 2000) helped a lot to make it a bit less obnoxious.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Sep 2020, 15:16

Thanks Tom,

I'm a bit surprised but ok.

Daniele

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Sep 2020, 15:43

Starship is definitely different than the Piaggio from an OUTSIDE the cabin noise perspective, but from the way it is being described, the Piaggio inside noise must be mouse quiet.

Not so with Starship from what I understand.

But let's be honest, they both sound, and LOOK, way, way more better than that Brand M noise-maker.......... :stir:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Sep 2020, 22:42

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Actually banned at only one US airport. The aforementioned KSMO.

Also banned at 07FA (Ocean Reef Airport in Key Largo, FL), along with any Garrett-engined turboprops.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Sep 2020, 22:51

So any airport you use regularly might ban you? Like your home airport?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Sep 2020, 10:50

Username Protected wrote:

Actually banned at only one US airport. The aforementioned KSMO.

Also banned at 07FA (Ocean Reef Airport in Key Largo, FL), along with any Garrett-engined turboprops.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Sep 2020, 22:39

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Now, imagine it with TPE331's on - FBO'd be paying you for fuel! :peace:

I don’t think they would do as well turned backwards. Are there any examples of a TPE331 in a pusher config?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Sep 2020, 15:13

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Are there any examples of a TPE331 in a pusher config?

MQ-9 Reaper UAV is a pusher with a -10 engine. May not have been certified for civilian use as a pusher but seems to work fine for the military.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Sep 2020, 08:40

Flight to Cali yesterday. ISA +10ish the whole way. Fl340 ends up being a nice blend of speed and efficiency. I repainted my leading edges and refilled some panel gaps. Seemed to have gained a few knots. 380tas on 638lbs/hr for a specific consumption of .596 nm/lb. It was just me but I did start with full fuel.

One quibble, the single point system is great but I wish it had more venting. I watched them put twice the fuel into a jet yesterday and it took less time than filling me. I hope that remains my biggest ‘issue’.