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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50  Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: ...pressurized, turbine Bonanza that ran on JetA. The SF50 is it. I don't think that's even close....
How is it not even close?
Fits in the same hanger
Just as easy to fly
Pressurized
A/C
300 knots
Seats the same number of people
Has the same range
It couldn't be any closer unless it was actually a Bonanza that did all those things.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:06 |
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Username Protected wrote:
How is it not even close?
All those things are true, but have you sat in one? It's much, much roomier; considerably larger, despite it fitting in same hangar; easier to get in/out. If you put a turbine 36 beside the SF50, it does not look like or feel like anywhere close to the same plane.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:10 |
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Username Protected wrote: ...pressurized, turbine Bonanza that ran on JetA. The SF50 is it. I don't think that's even close....
Explain
I hate when people make comments like this but don’t elevosrate. It’s a forum. Elaborate. That’s the whole point. And I love a challenge. 
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:12 |
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Username Protected wrote:
How is it not even close?
All those things are true, but have you sat in one? It's much, much roomier; considerably larger, despite it fitting in same hangar; easier to get in/out. If you put a turbine 36 beside the SF50, it does not look like or feel like anywhere close to the same plane.
Oh. You think it’s better? In that case yes. I agree. But that’s not my point. My point is a generalization. Not a specific.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: Explain I hate when people make comments like this but don’t elevosrate. It’s a forum. Elaborate. That’s the whole point. And I love a challenge. It's in the post right above. As admitted, you can find plenty of similarities, but the layout and feel is nowhere remotely similar. It's often compared to the SR, and while sitting in the cockpit, it really has a lot of the same feel, except substantially more substantial. But it's not remotely similar to an SR turbine, either. It is in it's own class.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: Oh. You think it’s better? In that case yes. I agree. But that’s not my point. My point is a generalization. Not a specific. If that's how I get to exit an anticipated debate by you, I'm very content with that. You can compare anything if you're general enough. 
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:23 |
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Username Protected wrote: Explain I hate when people make comments like this but don’t elevosrate. It’s a forum. Elaborate. That’s the whole point. And I love a challenge. It's in the post right above. As admitted, you can find plenty of similarities, but the layout and feel is nowhere remotely similar. It's often compared to the SR, and while sitting in the cockpit, it really has a lot of the same feel, except substantially more substantial. But it's not remotely similar to an SR turbine, either. It is in it's own class.
That wasn’t my point but yes, of course the SF50 is better. I assumed we all agreed on that. It’s a brand new design. The Bonanza is not.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: ...pressurized, turbine Bonanza that ran on JetA. The SF50 is it. I don't think that's even close....
This means you don’t think the SF50 is better than a pressurized, turbine bonanza.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: For years BT has wanted a pressurized, turbine Bonanza that ran on JetA. The SF50 is it.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: One of us is a victim of semantics. Or both. Thats because behind every elevosrate is lurking a covefefe. 
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: One of us is a victim of semantics. Or both. Thats because behind every elevosrate is lurking a covefefe.
I caught the elevosrate, but had to google covefefe.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: One of us is a victim of semantics. Or both. Thats because behind every elevosrate is lurking a covefefe.
Touché
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: One of us is a victim of semantics. Or both. The SF50 is it. As in “it’s what everyone has wanted for a long time”. I don’t know why you read it as a criticism since I’ve been a big supporter of the SF50 since page 1.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50 Posted: 11 Dec 2018, 15:55 |
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Username Protected wrote:
I don’t know why you read it as a criticism since I’ve been a big supporter of the SF50 since page 1.
Not a criticism! A weak comparison, which you said was a broad generalization. All good. No doubt you are a supporter. About a 1k of those +1's are mine....
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