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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50
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You need to be writing this stuff in green


lol, after how many years? I would expect you to know when I am pulling someone's leg.

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50
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Well we know one thing for absolute certainty: they didn’t market it for engineer types

I would say they have, most engineers see the big picture and on balance it's an attractive concept to own and keep. Maybe it's more accurate to say they didn't market it to "real jet pilots".


Yeah, of course you’re right. Should have used the green font. :oops:
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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50
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I think they had hoped the payload/ range equation would have been better and the price will be more than expected. It appears to be a great airplane, and that was my point.

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus SF50
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Well we know one thing for absolute certainty: they didn’t market it for engineer types


They market it to the folks who employ the engineers.


ROFL.

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Cirrus don't need two engine jet , the next step Sirius must stop building the old fashioned piston SR 20 and 22 and start building a cheap turboprop engine with SR 20 and 22 model .


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Cirrus don't need two engine jet , the next step Sirius must stop building the old fashioned piston SR 20 and 22 and start building a cheap turboprop engine with SR 20 and 22 model .

That would be a cool airplane. I’m not sure how they’d keep the cost under a million USD, and we need something that will still act as an entry level single.

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They market it to the folks who employ the engineers.
"The one who knows how will always have a job; the one who knows why will always be his boss", as they used to say at my liberal arts alma mater. After graduation the philosophy majors found it didn't work that way.


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Diesel engine powered with the EPS at 350 hp would make sense and its already flying as the EPS test bed. Turbine powered without pressurization does not really make sense and you could not carry enough fuel.





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Diesel engine powered with the EPS at 350 hp would make sense and its already flying as the EPS test bed. Turbine powered without pressurization does not really make sense and you could not carry enough fuel.


Agree.

Maybe someday someone will want to build a turbine optimized for low altitude, but I expect it would be used to charge batteries.

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My only question about the Cirrus Jet is:

Can it generate 500 pages? :dance:

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My only question about the Cirrus Jet is:

Can it generate 500 pages? :dance:


Easy peasy. This page has engineering issues.

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They market it to the folks who employ the engineers.
"The one who knows how will always have a job; the one who knows why will always be his boss", as they used to say at my liberal arts alma mater. After graduation the philosophy majors found it didn't work that way.


There are probably more MBAs and finance majors than engineers holding SF50 positions.

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Cirrus don't need two engine jet , the next step Sirius must stop building the old fashioned piston SR 20 and 22 and start building a cheap turboprop engine with SR 20 and 22 model .

It's already here. It's called SF50


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You still owe me $100 for our bet where you claimed "the SF50 will never get certified above FL250".

We're all also still waiting for you to make good on your bet that you'd "never post on BT again if Cirrus delivered 20 or more SF50's in 2017".

You lost both.

You are suffering from faulty memory or deliberate deception. Not clear which is worse.

If you dispute that, please link the posts which corroborate the above.

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You are suffering from faulty memory or deliberate deception. Not clear which is worse.

If you dispute that, please link the posts which corroborate the above.

Mike C.

Of course that's your come back..... Nobody wants to sift through all your bad predictions in this thread. Keep your $100. It's worth having this thread to remind myself that a guy like you is out there, functioning in this world without a lick of common sense.

Here's another bet for you since you refuse to show me how a 2 engine jet is supposed to be cheaper on the market than a single...... I'll bet you $100 that 2 new SF 50 sized turbine engines are more expensive than 1.


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