One would hope, but there's enough uncertainty right now one would think they'd have a canned line for prospects. Has anybody talked to them about it?

Cessna going to diesel (pardon me...Jet A) for the 182T was a turning point. We'll surely see more, but when and at what cost?

I'm betting I can purchase, install, and wear out another IO-520 before a diesel conversion for F33As becomes commonplace and affordable

Tim

I am praying that you are correct, for the sake of my current engine.

Oddly enough, I find myself cheering for all the diesel efforts at the same time. Keeping 100LL will prevent my current engine from becoming obsolete but a well designed diesel engine will (hopefully) prevent GA from becoming obsolete.

Burns,

So far the only guys I know that would never consider a Cirrus have also never flown a Cirrus. It's hard for me to give their opinion much weight....

Best,

Have flown a Cirrus

Would never consider a Cirrus

Best

Tim

Not trying to be offensive, btw. As you can see I don't own one.

I don't subscribe to brand loyalty. Those brands sure aren't loyal to us customers.

As for the Cirrus, I have enough experience with piston engine failure to appreciate the built-in plan B. The plane is pretty solid before that feature. I have noticed guys start shopping for plan B after plan A failed them.

Or failed a friend - Chris.

The Crash Forum kept me considering a Plan B - not necessarily Cirrus. Chris's stay in the ICU Burn Unit put me over the top.

Incidentally, I talked this over with Chris before his accident. His response was, as long as you have a good engine monitor and know how to use it, these are as safe as anything.

I realize this does not apply to everyone, and we all have different missions.

Good point, but tell me why I would sell my '82 V35B with a full Garmin panel plus G500 SVT and buy an airplane that is no faster, uses more fuel, costs more to insure and will ultimately depreciate more than mine has. So even tho I've never flown one, I can safely say I'll never buy one either. Just common sense and an economic reality. I've never flown a Gulfstream G5 and I can safely say I won't buy one of those either, so see I can say I'll never buy something I've never flown. Kinda silly argument Jesse.

This IS my last airplane unless I win the lottery and buy a Baron

Besides this isn't about me as I explained in the first post . . . It's a demographic and economic shift of the pilot population in general and not about any one single pilot. That was the point I was trying to make and still seems to slip away.

So in some cases it's not the plane....its the money. I get that, and I live with the same realities. I don't think we are very honest about that fact when we debate planes on BT however. I see lots of talk about all of the characteristics other than.....they are just a lot of money, especially for the new planes with the best improvements.

Why were you selling your plane, Burns? Why did you take it off the market after several months?

Not trying to make a point. Just curious what you had planned and why it didn't happen?

No good point Nate, I wanted a 6 seater so I could carry my grand kids, probably a Baron, but I was also considering a B36TC, ask Neal.

I could put the 5th seat in my V35 but I really don't put one of my little guys back there alone.

But again it's not about me or any one person, but the shift in general . . .

I don't need verification, Burns! Really - just curious. For all I knew, you may have been buying a Cub.

I don't know about that - 15 pages on the "convert" thread & 8 (?) on the last pull thread.

There is a lot less opposition now.

You should only switch planes is money or mission or risk tollerance has changed.

Tim