BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Nov 2009, 18:16

He has a house there.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Nov 2009, 18:19

just pointing out the situation in which that PC-12 will be a better choice.

No cargo, no big bags - TBM

Stuff/people/baggage/toys hauling - PC-12

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Nov 2009, 18:26

Agreed,

When I get a PC12, my first course of action will be to remove the brakes and hide them in my safe deposit box.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Nov 2009, 18:43

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Nov 2009, 20:35

Username Protected wrote:

No one's fond of the French. But they do know how to make fast airplanes.

Hey! Easy now Russ!

They make great Skis & Sunglasses and have great bike races.

It was a French woman who was my first flight instructor - she changed the way I think about the French. :shrug:

-MO

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Nov 2009, 20:49

this her?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Nov 2009, 21:06

Username Protected wrote:

you finally posted a picture from the party at NBAA :clap:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 11 Nov 2009, 23:23

That is the most fun thread I've ever read on BT. Great TBM discussion and great humor! :clap:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Nov 2009, 02:27

I'm going to have to ask my clients about this brake rumor...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Nov 2009, 05:59

The expensive brakes on the PC-12 were sorted out years ago by Pilatus. It's no longer an issue.

I rent some of my hangar space to a TBM and a PC-12. Both are great airplanes, but completely different missions. Lots of people and bags - PC12. You and the wife, a couple of bags - TBM.

Regards,

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Nov 2009, 06:04

The TBM and PC-12 shouldn't be considered in the same category.

Think of the TBM as a Meridian, but built strong/proper with good range and speed.

Think of the PC-12 as a single engine King Air 200 or 350.

Regards,

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Nov 2009, 08:47

Username Protected wrote:

We only got to 15,000 feet remember. We'd have been doing 310 at 27,000 feet on 60 gph.

ROC is 2000fpm without even trying. So, you're at 15,000 feet in a little over 7 minutes.

I dont understand why they didnt have you climb to 27k, remember this is a demo flight.
If I was demoing a TBM I would want to check it out at 27k. Like you said, it climbs at 2000 fpm, thats another 6 mins.

It may resemble a Meridian but thats were it ends, totaly different.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Nov 2009, 09:29

look what I started with the whole brake thing. I should have never told you guys :rofl:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Nov 2009, 09:39

Those PC-12's are just big lumbering trucks. The TBM is what aviation is all about; look cool, go fast and burn fuel.

Russ

Username Protected · **Posted:** 12 Nov 2009, 09:41

Username Protected wrote:

The TBM and PC-12 shouldn't be considered in the same category.

Think of the TBM as a Meridian, but built strong/proper with good range and speed.

Think of the PC-12 as a single engine King Air 200 or 350.

Regards,

I agree and disagree.

Since I feel operating costs would be close to the same, I keep them in the same category.

Do I want speed?

Or do I want comfort and load hauling?

My TBM850 Demo Today