BeechTalk - BT - Unelected FAA medical contempt of congress

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Aug 2023, 11:39

Username Protected wrote:

It was so obvious they didn’t think they had to write it down.

Much like “English is the official language and shall only be used by the government.” What? Why would we write THAT down? People would laugh and ridicule us if we wrote that down.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Aug 2023, 11:51

Username Protected wrote:

You mean something like this:
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/med ... 60-28B.pdf
FAA English Language Standard for an FAA Certificate Issued Under 14 CFR Parts 61, 63, 65, and 107
Date: 6/2/17
AC No: 60-28B
Initiated by: AFS-800

…or maybe ICAO’s Aviation English requirement.

Had it not been for the Wright Brothers, we may very well need to speak French when flying internationally. My Francais is so bad the people in France start speaking English to me!

It was gonna either be English or German. I’m glad the English side won out for multiple reasons.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Aug 2023, 11:55

Those are international issues and I’m talking about the Constitution. Maybe where you live they don’t print voter booklets in 27 languages?

The point was that it was never in the Founding documents because no one imagined it needed. They weren’t as prescient as we would like to think, even though I think they were brilliant.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Aug 2023, 12:11

Username Protected wrote:

So if someone is convicted of FUI or DUI then you believe return to flying status should be based upon a recommendation by a doctor the pilot chooses who offers an opinion that the pilot is safe to return to flying?

Are you saying doctors are going to lie on behalf of the patient? That is, they are not trustworthy to make objective conclusions?

That fits with my overall mistrust of the doctors at CAMI, sure enough.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Aug 2023, 12:15

Username Protected wrote:

. if they are found guilty a substance type crime that caused the FAA to be concerned (already muddy waters mixing law with medicine) have them simply go to a real doc who is versed it in, get the docs opinion on, ideally the doctor the airman normally uses, he whips up a letter and that’s that.

So if someone is convicted of FUI or DUI then you believe return to flying status should be based upon a recommendation by a doctor the pilot chooses who offers an opinion that the pilot is safe to return to flying?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Aug 2023, 12:50

Username Protected wrote:

So if someone is convicted of FUI or DUI then you believe return to flying status should be based upon a recommendation by a doctor the pilot chooses who offers an opinion that the pilot is safe to return to flying?

So I got to stop you right there, not going to let ya mix the paint colors here, FUI as in flying drunk? Yeahhhhh that’s a straight FAR violation and your medical would be the least of your worries and you’re already going to go for a ride

Per the DUI, yup, if a medically licensed doc makes a medical determination and will sign with his license that took him a looong time to get that the airman doesnt have a medical issue that’s that

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Aug 2023, 17:01

Username Protected wrote:

“English is the official language and shall only be used by the government.”

Either that means *only* the government shall use English... or proper English use isn't as common as we suppose? :lol:

There were plenty of people speaking other languages in the time of the Founding Fathers. After all, the Brits brought along the Hessians as their mercenaries, and they were speaking German... as was George Washington's chief of staff and Inspector General of the Continental Army, good ol' Fred von Steuben, who was responsible for teaching the Continental Army the essentials of military drills, tactics and discipline. Some say we would have never won the revolutionary war without him.

Fortunately, Baron von Steuben brought two young men with him from Prussia who quickly learned English and translated for him, as well as sharing his bed. It was perhaps a different time...

Paul

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Aug 2023, 19:24

Username Protected wrote:

Either that means *only* the government shall use English... or proper English use isn't as common as we suppose? :lol:

There were plenty of people speaking other languages in the time of the Founding Fathers. After all, the Brits brought along the Hessians as their mercenaries, and they were speaking German... as was George Washington's chief of staff and Inspector General of the Continental Army, good ol' Fred von Steuben, who was responsible for teaching the Continental Army the essentials of military drills, tactics and discipline. Some say we would have never won the revolutionary war without him.

Fortunately, Baron von Steuben brought two young men with him from Prussia who quickly learned English and translated for him, as well as sharing his bed. It was perhaps a different time...

Paul