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Post subject: Re: So you want to replace your PC-12 with a ____?  Posted: 21 Feb 2019, 19:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: Nice. I love they're showing up used.
Don’t think this one is very used. Only has flight test and ferry time on it. Asking 11m. Probably paid 9.5m Speculation buyer.
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Post subject: Re: So you want to replace your PC-12 with a ____? Posted: 21 Feb 2019, 19:52 |
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Username Protected wrote: Don’t think this one is very used. Only has flight test and ferry time on it. Asking 11m. Probably paid 9.5m Speculation buyer. I can place an order for a new one for $10MM..... delivery 2021. So if you want one now!
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Post subject: Re: So you want to replace your PC-12 with a ____? Posted: 21 Feb 2019, 22:27 |
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Serial 110......Seems Pilatus is cranking them out, yes? I agree it was speculation, but I’d love to know the actual contract purchase number.....if only to satisfy curiosity! Oh, and +1 to Jason’s point....want one NOW? Pay up now..... 
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Post subject: Re: So you want to replace your PC-12 with a ____? Posted: 21 Feb 2019, 22:34 |
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Username Protected wrote: Serial 110......Seems Pilatus is cranking them out, yes? I agree it was speculation, but I’d love to know the actual contract purchase number.....if only to satisfy curiosity! Oh, and +1 to Jason’s point....want one NOW? Pay up now..... I think serial 110 = hull #10. They delivered 18 PC24's in 2018. I think there are 20 in existence.
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Post subject: Re: So you want to replace your PC-12 with a ____? Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 00:44 |
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Username Protected wrote: I think serial 110 = hull #10. They delivered 18 PC24's in 2018. I think there are 20 in existence. FAA registry has 12 PC24 registrations ranging in serial number from #101 to #125 which confirms they started not at #1. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: So you want to replace your PC-12 with a ____? Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 07:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: I think serial 110 = hull #10. They delivered 18 PC24's in 2018. I think there are 20 in existence. FAA registry has 12 PC24 registrations ranging in serial number from #101 to #125 which confirms they started not at #1. Mike C.
Correct, they are up to MSN130, so around 30 flying now.
P01, P02, and P03 were for the flight test program and will not be sold. MSN101 was the first customer delivery that was sold to Plane Sense.
https://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N124AF
Pilatus said they have 5000+ hours on the PC24 fleet. Planesense has already has 1000 hours on 101 and they just took delivery last Feb. No major issues except for a manufacturing defect on the windshield heat that requires replacement every something like 300 hours until the defect is resolved (evidently and fortunately the windscreens are easy to replace) and a few minor avionics bugs. Thus far, customers seem really happy. Pretty incredible for a clean sheet design.
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Post subject: Re: So you want to replace your PC-12 with a ____? Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 08:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: I think serial 110 = hull #10. They delivered 18 PC24's in 2018. I think there are 20 in existence. Whoops, didn’t check the registry...... 
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Post subject: Re: So you want to replace your PC-12 with a ____? Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 09:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: I think Pilatus showed brilliance once again with this small, almost insignificant marketing step. I’m not crazy about early serial numbers and since many manufacturers started their lines with 001, there’s a mindset about the first 20 or 30 serial numbers. The perception of the early serial number PC-24’s will likely be just a tad better as the average buyer won’t thing serial number 103 is actually number 6 built. Anyone who has opened a business checking account has this level of “brilliance”. I have more faith in the buyer of a $10Mm aircraft.
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Post subject: Re: So you want to replace your PC-12 with a ____? Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 14:17 |
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Username Protected wrote: I think Pilatus showed brilliance once again with this small, almost insignificant marketing step. I’m not crazy about early serial numbers and since many manufacturers started their lines with 001, there’s a mindset about the first 20 or 30 serial numbers. The perception of the early serial number PC-24’s will likely be just a tad better as the average buyer won’t thing serial number 103 is actually number 6 built. Anyone who has opened a business checking account has this level of “brilliance”. I have more faith in the buyer of a $10Mm aircraft.
I don't disagree... just not sure why no one else thought to do it! I'm trying to think, but all Citations started at 0001, as did Phenoms and Legacy's. The Challenger 300 started at single digits... Lears did... there might be some manufacturers products that we do not acquire who have later serial number starts, but all the ones I'm familiar with started at 01 or real close to it.
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Post subject: Re: So you want to replace your PC-12 with a ____? Posted: 22 Feb 2019, 18:29 |
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Username Protected wrote:
I don't disagree... just not sure why no one else thought to do it!
Maybe other manufacturers think more highly of prospective customers than Pilatus does...
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Post subject: Re: So you want to replace your PC-12 with a ____? Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 22:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: I wish the M2 had more range M2 literature says 1550NM. That's legit. Phenom 100E is only 1100NM according to literature. I just wish M2 could go to FL450. If it did it would satisfy my west bound needs.
Have you considered the Beech 400 Jason? We had a couple completely renovated and installed winglets. Decided to keep the Pratt’s instead of the Williams and love it. FL450 Mach 0.78. Go to www.TeeBeeAviation.com New interior, paint, G5000 and increase in gross weight.
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Post subject: Re: So you want to replace your PC-12 with a ____? Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 01:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: Have you considered the Beech 400 Jason? We had a couple completely renovated and installed winglets. Decided to keep the Pratt’s instead of the Williams and love it. FL450 Mach 0.78. Go to http://www.TeeBeeAviation.com New interior, paint, G5000 and increase in gross weight. If a 400 ever gets an SPE (single pilot exemption), I'm all over it. Until then, not on my list. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: So you want to replace your PC-12 with a ____? Posted: 24 Feb 2019, 10:10 |
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Username Protected wrote: Have you considered the Beech 400 Jason? We had a couple completely renovated and installed winglets. Decided to keep the Pratt’s instead of the Williams and love it. FL450 Mach 0.78. Go to http://www.TeeBeeAviation.com New interior, paint, G5000 and increase in gross weight. If a 400 ever gets an SPE (single pilot exemption), I'm all over it.
Me too, well, plus I need some performance mods to get it in and out of 2600’ runway. 
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