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Post subject: Re: TRW Citation - A chance to own history!  Posted: 23 Mar 2018, 20:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: Quote: She can't be prosecuted, but dollars to doughnuts she was at least in the loop about his actions As long as we're just throwing out opinions (with no basis) for others to read, I think she was completely innocent and/or naive to the scams. Bwwwwwaahhhhhaaaaa   Nope. This is how they get the guy to go quietly. "We will leave your lovely leopard-shoe-wearing-lawyer-girlfriend out of this if you comply with our demands" Leverage, it works.
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Post subject: Re: TRW Citation - A chance to own history! Posted: 23 Mar 2018, 20:40 |
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Username Protected wrote: IIRC; her history as a restaurant owner involved consumer fraud, so her history ain’t exactly pristine. Interesting. I had believed she was innocent also. Strange how these things follow her... https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/new ... -fine.html(the link describes the fish  fraud)
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Post subject: Re: TRW Citation - A chance to own history! Posted: 23 Mar 2018, 21:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: There is no counting the number of restaurants unknowingly caught up in this nationwide scam.
Include anywhere fish is sold retail also. How many ‘unknowing’ restaurant owners are awarded a $120k fine?
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Post subject: Re: TRW Citation - A chance to own history! Posted: 23 Mar 2018, 23:19 |
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Username Protected wrote: I can't imagine how much he is suffering. He got taken away from his kid, his wife, his friends and his life. That part of is life is over and it ain't coming' back. I don't feel any need to be mad at him or adding to his punishment, the system is doing a fine job at that.
Years from now, when he gets out of prison, I wonder who he will be? I wonder how long it will take him to accept responsibility and then forgive himself. John, You are probably right and I agree with you most all the time and so feel no need to reply but I’m thinking that a guy like this has to see it coming and therefore can’t be suffering too bad. The guy didnt give a sh*t and he was at least smart enough to know better. Maybe I’m wrong, as I’m sure prison is a wake up call, but man, I hit the brakes out of instinct when I see a cop no matter how fast I’m driving! If I get a ticket for speeding, I sure as hell won’t be surprised. Oh, and the reason I’m mad is he cost me a bunch of money inspecting my heater. I’m gullible!
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Post subject: Re: TRW Citation - A chance to own history! Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 18:17 |
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Username Protected wrote: If I didn't remember to test my heater on the ground (in the baron), I wouldn't ever turn it on in flight. I don't feel any need to forgive him for this!
I doubt that he thought this was coming. I'd bet most criminals are quite sure they will get away with whatever they are doing. I occasionally exceed the speed limit because I think I'll get away with it. If I knew I'd get a ticket, I wouldn't do it. In other words Risk vs Reward. Problem is risk is a function of two things 1) probability of capture 2) penalty associated with capture and conviction. Probability of capture is increased when you collude with dumb and dumber. I am betting TRW sucks at math and risk assessment. Surprising for a pilot.
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Post subject: Re: TRW Citation - A chance to own history! Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 19:06 |
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Username Protected wrote: There is no counting the number of restaurants unknowingly caught up in this nationwide scam.
Include anywhere fish is sold retail also. How many ‘unknowing’ restaurant owners are awarded a $120k fine?
How many grandstanding deputy DAs are looking to build a political career as a "crusader for consumer rights"? Not that I have any particular knowledge in this case, but it's been known to happen, and businesses will "settle" to avoid more bad publicity.
Yes I am cynical.
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Post subject: Re: TRW Citation - A chance to own history! Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 19:15 |
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Tom, would one be able to inspect/smell the fish before ordering if a restaurant was suspect?
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Post subject: Re: TRW Citation - A chance to own history! Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 19:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: That said, most pilots are adverse to over temping a motor. Most pilots are adverse to landing planes in the gulf that don't float.... 
.......and that still work just fine
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Post subject: Re: TRW Citation - A chance to own history! Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 21:11 |
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Username Protected wrote: Tom, would one be able to inspect/smell the fish before ordering if a restaurant was suspect? As I understand it this was not an issue of 'bad fish' but rather that fish A (cheap) was advertisted and sold as fish B (expensive). If the restaurant owner is not in on the scam, the chef definitely is.
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Post subject: Re: TRW Citation - A chance to own history! Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 21:48 |
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Username Protected wrote: In fairness a recent study (2016) shows that a third of fish sold in the US is mislabeled. Oceana?
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Post subject: Re: TRW Citation - A chance to own history! Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 21:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: In fairness a recent study (2016) shows that a third of fish sold in the US is mislabeled. Oceana?
Affirmative
http://oceana.org/reports/oceana-study- ... nationwide
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