Interesting... I haven't seen a Commander sitting on a ramp in years. If what you say is true it seems they'd be putting Pilatus out of business.

That stipulation wasn't in your original post.

I do? Do you know what price I'm trying to pay? There are plenty of used CJ3's trading hands for less than a used PC12NG.

There's no such thing as a bottom.

Michael, I have the airplane..........

Carry two passengers = Check
Take off on a grass strip = Check
Land in 2800 feet = Check
Fit in your hangar = Check
Goes 1500nm = Check

What you need is a Mustang P51D

Still more than a million tho
And it has a chute, actually 2 chutes.

Au contraire grasshopper. Get out of that blue chip PC-12 and go get yourself a nice CJ3, then watch what the value does as Textron comes out with a CJ5, CJ6, CJ6+, CJ6++, CJ6-Super-Duper, CJ7 and so on...You may not see the real bottom, but it will feel like it.

Interesting... I haven't seen a Commander sitting on a ramp in years. If what you say is true it seems they'd be putting Pilatus out of business.

Commander is a fantastic airplane. If they could resurrect and then allow for update and simplify all the elements of the airplane, it would be awesome. If they were still in production I would have most probably taken one over the PC12.

The Denali is definitely going to come to fruition IMHO, and I'm hoping that it pushes Pilatus AND P&W to get better and offer more to the consumer. The biggest issue with airplane manufacturers at the moment is their pricing for after market parts........they're bordering on unethical.......which to a large extent is the manufacturer's shenanigans.

IMHO the only difference between the Denali and the PC12 is the engine (they copied pretty much everything else from the PC12). The Denali also put their lav in the back, which is a mistake because it removes space in the back. The lav position in the PC12 is perfect.

Like any new thing the GE engine will have a few teething problems but I believe that they will force P&W to extend the service life of the 67p as well as improve the pricing on overhaul.

As I've noted in prior posts, I believe the PC12 to be an incredible airplane that was built to make the pilot better. It does everything very well which is why it commands a premium.

you weigh 4000lbs more and have presumably more drag than a pilatus (twin vs single), but you are burning less fuel and going faster? something isn't right

Edit, apparently they weigh the same and my Google info is flawed

you weigh 4000lbs more and have presumably more drag than a pilatus (twin vs single), but you are burning less fuel and going faster? something isn't right

Commander is a fantastic airplane. If they could resurrect and then allow for update and simplify all the elements of the airplane, it would be awesome. If they were still in production I would have most probably taken one over the PC12.

The Denali is definitely going to come to fruition IMHO, and I'm hoping that it pushes Pilatus AND P&W to get better and offer more to the consumer. The biggest issue with airplane manufacturers at the moment is their pricing for after market parts........they're bordering on unethical.......which to a large extent is the manufacturer's shenanigans.

IMHO the only difference between the Denali and the PC12 is the engine (they copied pretty much everything else from the PC12). The Denali also put their lav in the back, which is a mistake because it removes space in the back. The lav position in the PC12 is perfect.

Like any new thing the GE engine will have a few teething problems but I believe that they will force P&W to extend the service life of the 67p as well as improve the pricing on overhaul.

As I've noted in prior posts, I believe the PC12 to be an incredible airplane that was built to make the pilot better. It does everything very well which is why it commands a premium.

Its still an out of production old plane with older systems.

Almost all airplane deigns are ultimately old and with old systems.

Only the avionics and engines have truly advanced in the last 30 or 40 years.

An experimental Epic would be my choice. The green one for sale on Controller has extended wings which adds an hour of fuel. Just not sure about the hangar size. The $1million budget will be stretched a bit, but you can make that up in operations savings since it is experimental.
I have a friend who has owned 27 aircraft over the last 10 years, including several jets. He told me the Epic was the only plane he regretted selling and wished he could get it back.

The Epic is an awesome machine and would be high in my list if I wanted a single engine airplane.

It has the problem of all other single engines airplanes, no radar or a pod hanging off the wing ruining the looks of a great looking airplane.