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 Post subject: Re: I’m a Twin Cessna owner now
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Congrats Arlen! I've got many hours right seat in my friends T310R, it's a hauling airplane with lots of room for all the Pilot N Paws dogs we fly. We had 15 dogs in one trip, lots of puppies. He was flying solo on another trip when he had a lab get out of her crate, she just stood on top of the crate looking out the window or watching him fly.

Good airplane, you will enjoy it! :thumbup:


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 Post subject: Re: I’m a Twin Cessna owner now
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Much is made of the fuel system, but it's really simple. There are four tanks. Two(2) tips & two (2) wing tanks. Tips are mains. Run them for at least an hour before switching to wing tanks. When wing tanks r run down, back to mains. That's it.

I think the biggest thing is to find a plane that hasn't been neglected...


In many cases there are also nacelle tanks. 20 gal each. Pumps from the nacelle tank to the tip tank (aka the main) on the same side the nacelle tank is located. No fuel gauge. Run it until the "tank empty" light illuminates. 25 minute transfer time. Time it to make sure it was full when you started (if you forgot to look).

Process is to run both engines off the main into which the fuel is being transferred. Once it is dry you will have about five extra gallons in the main. Continue feeding both engines out of the main on one side until fuel is balanced. Then switch back to mode where each engine is feeding from tip tank on same side as engine.

It is not hard but it is more complex than many fuel systems.


Mark,

Yes, nacelle tanks add to fuel system complexity, however, most 310s do not have this feature. Not only does it add complexity, it also limits one's loading flexibility. However, if you need the range...

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 Post subject: Re: I’m a Twin Cessna owner now
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Nice ride Arlen. :thumbup: like the Scarlet color too!

I put a few hours on OSU's 310 over the years, it was a nice plane to fly.

Now bring her on over to KPGD for some exercise. :D

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Wow tight fit Arlen but she looks great.

Yeah, I have about a foot on each side.....gotta drive it right down the center to get it safely in the hangar.


Congratulations on you new airplane!

One caution on Twin Cessnas. The tip tanks are fragile. My father had a 402B where the FBO just touched the hangar door with the tip tank. Destroyed the tank's nose cone and severely damaged the tank itself. Had to order a new one from Cessna-that was 25+ years ago when there were new ones from Cessna. We kept the old one for many years and it always amazed me how light it was when I moved it. Probably no more than 25Lbs. The aluminum is paper thin.

You might want to think about putting some guides on the hangar floor that will not allow the main wheels to go where the airplane can touch the hangar. ie- Something along the lines on a car wash track.

Good luck with your new airplane- I have a soft spot for Twin Cessnas!!

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My first "real" airplane was a 1964 310I with 2-bladed props. It was a great airplane and hauled my family of five (kids were small at the time) and all our bags in comfort at an honest 180KAS. We went all over in that airplane and never cancelled a flight due to maintenance.

One note - I recall my airplane had 140 gallons of fuel. Could be memory fails after all these years.

N533G is still flying and looks like it will outlive me.

I know you will enjoy your new airplane.

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In many cases there are also nacelle tanks. 20 gal each. Pumps from the nacelle tank to the tip tank (aka the main) on the same side the nacelle tank is located. No fuel gauge. Run it until the "tank empty" light illuminates. 25 minute transfer time. Time it to make sure it was full when you started (if you forgot to look).

Process is to run both engines off the main into which the fuel is being transferred. Once it is dry you will have about five extra gallons in the main. Continue feeding both engines out of the main on one side until fuel is balanced. Then switch back to mode where each engine is feeding from tip tank on same side as engine.

It is not hard but it is more complex than many fuel systems.

That strikes me as operator-induced complexity, and needless at that. I understand it may be manufacturer guided, but still, all of that cross feeding, balancing, valve switching when you could just burn down the mains by 25 gallons and then pump out the nacelles? Why?

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I'm assuming Mark is talking about installations with one nacelle tank, which are common on twin Cs.

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I'm assuming Mark is talking about installations with one nacelle tank, which are common on twin Cs.

I never even considered that an option. I understand.

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Often it's not nacelleS but nacelle. You are dumping an extra 20+ gallons into only ONE tip tank.


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I'm assuming Mark is talking about installations with one nacelle tank, which are common on twin Cs.

I never even considered that an option. I understand.


This is correct. A bunch of one nacelle systems out there. Anytime you see 160 gallons it means one 20 nacelle tank and two 50 gallon tip/mains and two 20 gallon inboard tanks (aux).
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Congratulations Arlen she is a beauty. My hangar neighbor has a 310Q and man does that plane sound great. :thumbup: :clap: Looks like you did well.

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I used to fly a Cessna 421B that held 25 (?) gal. In the left nacelle and the freon A/C unit in the right. Don't recall ever having any problems getting to all of the useable fuel.
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I was in a five plane (four students and one chase instructor) formation flight in T2As (single engine jet trainers) out of Meridian MS at about 15K feet and here comes this GA twin blasting right through the middle of our gaggle. The instructor gave chase trying to ID the guy and couldn't. The T2As normally flew about 230 KIAS at that altitude and would maybe hit a little over 350 true if you cobbed it.On the ground later I asked what it was and was told it was a Cessna 310, probably a turbo. I remember thinking "Man, I didn't know those sumbeaches were so fast".


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This is correct. A bunch of one nacelle systems out there. Anytime you see 160 gallons it means one 20 nacelle tank and two 50 gallon tip/mains and two 20 gallon inboard tanks (aux).


I think this might be limited to the 310 I - Q. My 310R has 50 in the tips and 31.5 in each inboard aux for a total of 163gal. I do not have nacelle tanks.


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Congratulations Arlen!

I believe my love of aviation comes from the time I spent in the back of my father's 310. If I close my eyes, I can still picture and feel those soft velour seats... awesome memories.

That's a sweet ride and I like the colors. Enjoy!

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