You did say it would land tail first. No I’m not going to go find I because this entire thread is a testament to how wrong you were about the SF50. Fortunately for you, nobody will ever take the time to read the whole thing. Ha.

Just because I had a series of compiles to run and was bored....
I searched BT where Mike C. was the author, and the following keywords were present SF50 chute tail. Two pages of hits. Not once did make say if was going to land on its tail. He did make fun of SF50, and the mentality of Cirrus a lot. He also said the chute was in the nose; and the way it was stated was kinda sloppy. In which case, someone may read it and think the plane would land on the tail. However, Mike C. tends to be much more precise, and if he thinks it will land on its tail, he would say so.

Tim

FltPlan added the airplane to performance database if anyone wants to run flight plans and see how performance looks.

Ran some scenarios from the East coast westbound.... With these winter winds, and 400 lb full fuel useful load, with 4 adults and leaving a little fuel behind to carry that load, looking at under 600 nm range today even with the more economical cruise settings of 278 KTAS at FL260. Of course westbound is pushing against an 86 knot headwind right now.

You should go ahead and include the numbers if the same plane were coming from the West today.

600nm (assuming that include real world reserves) isn't shabby.

See map
http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=&R=600nm%40k ... 0x540&PM=*

That would be no alternate IFR reserves. If you put an alternate, even a close one, flt.plan puts it as a no-go. Looks to have just a little more range than the Meridian, but we already knew that.

That is also considering an optimum climb and descent. Which you may not get out of the NE

Yeah, that's shabby.

To fly New York to St Louis will take 2 legs.

To fly from Boston to Denver will take 3 legs and practically all day.

A plodding PC-12 beats you on both trips (and it can fly higher, too).

If you take more than just yourself and baggage, range is further reduced.

The SF50 is not really a traveling airplane. It is a jet which fits a piston mission profile.

Mike C.

What's the average length (in nm) of the typical biz-jet trip?

Yeah, that's shabby.

To fly New York to St Louis will take 2 legs.

To fly from Boston to Denver will take 3 legs and practically all day.

A plodding PC-12 beats you on both trips (and it can fly higher, too).

If you take more than just yourself and baggage, range is further reduced.

The SF50 is not really a traveling airplane. It is a jet which fits a piston mission profile.

Mike C.

That obviously depends on the jet and the company.
My personal experience, 4 years of Phenom 300 use:
80% of trips sub 500 miles. Many trips in the 300 mile range.
15% of trips, owners to Florida, say 800.
Two trips per year or so to SoCal.

If you check flightware...... most every airplane is in the air less than 2 hours.

I've always said.... I don't care what airplane you own, 4+ hour flights are not common.

The Aerostar is a piston plane that was designed for jet engines, and in this case can run with the SF50 on the short flight, and outrun it on the long one.

Tim

If you check flightware...... most every airplane is in the air less than 2 hours.

I've always said.... I don't care what airplane you own, 4+ hour flights are not common.