BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 15:46

Slightly off topic......Do any of you guys know anything about the R9 Avidyne avionics in some of the older Cirrus planes? It seems to me like a lot of bang for the buck, but there may be something bad about that system...Thanks

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 16:02

Username Protected wrote:

Slightly off topic......Do any of you guys know anything about the R9 Avidyne avionics in some of the older Cirrus planes? It seems to me like a lot of bang for the buck, but there may be something bad about that system...Thanks

It is a LOT of bang for the buck.. Alejandro just got one with the updated DFC-90 A/P.

You just need to also update those older GNS430s with WAAS units for full benefit!

It is sad that those same avionics never made to other airframes or the retrofit market..

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 16:18

Username Protected wrote:

Slightly off topic......Do any of you guys know anything about the R9 Avidyne avionics in some of the older Cirrus planes? It seems to me like a lot of bang for the buck, but there may be something bad about that system...Thanks

It rocks. Much better than the G1000. If I am ever in the market for single again I would look closely at the option of getting an older Cirrus and installing the R9. The only current downside is I would want FIKI for the kind of flying I do. That means a G3 with the G1000....

Tim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 17:18

Username Protected wrote:

Much better than the G1000.

Don't get me wrong, I love my glass but there's no way it's better than the G1000 :scratch:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 17:30

I think he's talking about that aftermarket Avidyne system you can upgrade a 6 pack Cirrus too.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 18:05

Oh sorry, yes that's nicer/newer than mine.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 18:06

Yes, not the original Avidyne system as in most early Cirrus', Entegra Release 9 (R9). I'm not real sure exactly which equipment can be upgraded, but all of the planes that I have seen already had the original Avidyne avionics (PFD,MFD). Looks to be about $70k AU'S. Gives you more integrated panel similar to G1000/Perspective with the DFC100 digital autopilot. Video examples here- http://www.avidyne.com/landing/release9-videos.asp

I'm only guessing here, but it seems to me like Cirrus was working with Avidyne on making this standard equipment in their planes a few years ago and for some reason ditched it and went with Garmin. (hmmmm$$)

I am curious why the planes that already have it installed don't seem to bring very much of a premium for having such an upgrade. Maybe its just that people are not as familiar with it and thus won't pay more for it. Which could be a good thing for a buyer. Looks like a few Piper products have it as well.

Chad

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 18:07

Cirrus was going to go with that L3 system. Then they dumped it and went all Garmin.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 18:14

78 grand to update to R9 and then you're still stuck with 430's? Other than the G2000, I haven't seen anything that I'd consider an upgrade over a G500 with GTN 750.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 18:16

The only thing I've seen that houses all it's own GPS hardware outside of Garmin is Honeywell. Why do these other manufacturers rely so much on needing a 430?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 18:36

Username Protected wrote:

Much better than the G1000.

Don't get me wrong, I love my glass but there's no way it's better than the G1000 :scratch:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 18:37

R9 does not use Garmin anything including 430's. Everything is Avidyne including WAAS GPS's. Check this out http://www.avidyne.com/products/release-9/r9-cirrus.asp in that link you will see that the original equipment that is in the plane i.e., Garmin 430's, Stecc 55X, Avidyne Displays, etc all go back to Avidyne. So the cost is really considerably more than $69k.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 18:38

Username Protected wrote:

R9 does not use Garmin anything including 430's. Everything is Avidyne including WAAS GPS's. Check this out http://www.avidyne.com/products/release-9/r9-cirrus.asp in that link you will see that the original equipment that is in the plane i.e., Garmin 430's, Stecc 55X, Avidyne Displays, etc all go back to Avidyne. So the cost is really considerably more than $69k.

Yeah. That's awesome stuff. I'd do that in a second.

Why not available for Bo or Baron?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 18:42

Username Protected wrote:

The only thing I've seen that houses all it's own GPS hardware outside of Garmin is Honeywell. Why do these other manufacturers rely so much on needing a 430?

Avadyne built the R9 as a modular system. It kicks the pants out of the G1000 for FMS and PFD usability.
When I had the SR20 the R9 upgrade was $70K (this a little over two years ago).
If you do not need the larger UL or FIKI an older Cirrus with the R9 system is really nice.

Tim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 21 May 2013, 18:45

Have I entered the Twilight Zone and ended up on the COPA site?

Cirrus is so far out in front.......